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    splansing

    Halloween vs. Church

    Some church leaders are upset by Halloween. The march to stamp out ancient pagan practices continues to this day. Check this out:

    Some churches rejecting occult for 'holy' Halloween - USATODAY.com

    My favorite: "We take evil really seriously." I almost spit my Coke all over the screen.

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    melchizedek22

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Some church leaders are upset by Halloween. The march to stamp out ancient pagan practices continues to this day. Check this out:

    Some churches rejecting occult for 'holy' Halloween - USATODAY.com

    My favorite: "We take evil really seriously." I almost spit my Coke all over the screen.
    halloween is the eve of all saints day

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    ilikeGW

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    We always loved Halloween in school. I went to Catholic school from 1st to 9th. We never thought of it as an evil day. We celebrated All Saints Day and even got the day after Halloween off, woohoo!! One of the nuns who taught at my school used to joke that Halloween was the day all the ghouls and ghosts came out to play before they were celebrated on Novemeber 1st.

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    splansing

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    Halloween is All Saints Day because that's where the Catholic Church inserted its invented holiday, right after Halloween, in order to try to allow the pagans (who initially rejected Christianity outright) to have their ceremony, but call it something else, and have it somehow be redirected to be church-related. But Halloween is a hell of a lot older than the so-called "All Saints Day," and has nothing to do with Christianity whatsoever. This current business is just the continued effort of various Christian churches to ween the paganism out of the culture it is trying to fully engulf.

    That said, I think it's a cool holiday. Kids lose their minds over Halloween. And I hope that somewhere in there, the symbols and the scariness and the FEEL of Halloween still DOES carry some pagan joy, some reconnection with the turning of the seasons, the harvest, the shorter days, the spooky nights, all of it natural and real.

    Bear in mind, if you are of northern European descent, your ancesters stood in front of invading Roman armies and tried to save their families and their way of life. The Romans were too strong, and destroyed the armies of the north, and enslaved the populations, and forced them to abandon their old religion, and brutally beat their insane death cult into their heads for generations, stole their children and infected them with their sick and twisted lies, and gradually destroyed your true inheritance, your true culture. And today, the descendants of the people who murdered and destroyed your birth right continue that campaign of annihilation and genocide against us with their insidious Christian lies.

    They could not even usurp Christmas with their most holy of days, because it is too deeply rooted in our Anglo-Saxon souls, and even now Santa Claus and presents and celebration dominate the landscape. Easter is littered with eggs and bunnies and baby colors. YOU CANNOT STOP THE PAGANS. YOU WILL NEVER WIN. DEATH TO CHRISTIANITY.

    Seasonal "pagan" celebrations will never die. But Christianity, like all religions, will eventually disappear. This warms my heart. The only hope of Christianity to outlast the natural real religion of reality is to destroy us all before their insane death cult begins to wane. This, I think, is their evil plan, although most of them do not know themselves well enough to know this, I believe.

    This is not a lie. It is merely an uncommon perspective. The opinions are noted with "I think", or other clear denoters of opinion.

    And isn't this fun?

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    Inkslinger

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    Well done Splan.. I think paganism is alive and growing.. thanks to Dan Brown and Richard Leigh (I read his stuff in the 80's). ~inky

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    conservative

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Seasonal "pagan" celebrations will never die. But Christianity, like all religions, will eventually disappear. This warms my heart. The only hope of Christianity to outlast the natural real religion of reality is to destroy us all before their insane death cult begins to wane. This, I think, is their evil plan, although most of them do not know themselves well enough to know this, I believe.

    This is not a lie. It is merely an uncommon perspective. The opinions are noted with "I think", or other clear denoters of opinion.

    And isn't this fun?
    You need to look up stats on Christianities growth before you make erronious statements. Just because you wish it to be so doesn't mean it will happen...kind of like the Democrats taking back the senate and house...they are wishing a lot these days!

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    freecell

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away" Matthew 24:35.

  8. #8
    splansing

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    My statement is too sweeping to be erroneous, or to be correct for that matter. It is indeterminate, impossible to verify or refute at the moment. Christianity will probably not disappear within my lifetime, or even within the next several hundred years. But eventually, the artificial construct you think is God's law will unravel under the weight of its own absurdity and contradictions. In the end, nature will always be there, waiting for us to reconnect. Nature teaches us what we need to know about our own spirituality. "God can speak for himself." This is all just my opinion, not a statement to be proved or disproved. However, the fact that all of the world's known religions that are based on any sort of human construct have passed into oblivion is a reality from which I draw my opinion. Yes, yes, I know: you do not think the Bible is a human construct. Only time will tell.

    -The quote is from Refiner's Fire...a very good book so far, and a great quote.

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    conservative

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    "Voltaire, speaking of the Bible, once proclaimed, "In 100 years this book will be forgotten and eliminated...". In his later years (1759) Voltaire purchased an estate called "Ferney" near the French-Swiss border. Twenty years after his death the Geneva Bible Society bought his former home and used it for printing Bibles. It later became the headquarters for the British and Foreign Bible Society. For several years they distributed hundreds of thousands of bibles world-wide, thus Voltaire's home became a major distribution hub for the very scriptures he assigned to extinction. Voltaire's chateau is now owned and administered by the French Ministry of Culture."

    Voltaire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    splansing

    Re: Halloween vs. Church

    Isn't that ironic?

    That Voltaire, an otherwise highly intelligent person, would so badly miss on his estimate like that?

    Ironic, isn't it?

    But seriously, I take your point.

    Humans will always be weak, frail creatures susceptible to such nightmarish social plagues. We will have to be vigilent, probably forever. Not against Christianity, which, like all of these things will ultimately morph into whatever the next twisted cult will be, and vanish into history. But against that kind of infection of civilization in general.

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