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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I don't think reasonable people can argue, as if it's an open question, over whether Trump is a racist.

    But too many here seem confused as to whether Hillary is a racist.

    She is, always has been, and will continue to be.

    But they are different. Hillary hides hers. She says nice things about Muhammed Ali. She has her photo taken with Al Sharpton.

    Personally, I prefer my hate full on and without any bullshit.

    Most POC I know feel the same. If you hate me, say so to my face.

    Your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    And she and her husband most assuredly harmed the poor -- more than any other US president since the Civil War.
    Psst.....You're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Crime was sky high back then. And almost everyone was for the Crime bill. But as usual, it was carried too far and many blacks were incarcerated for minor crimes. That is now changing, but to call the first Black President and his wife racists is a lie.

    Made up hyperbole by desperate Republicans who can not deal with the real racist they selected.
    Bill Clinton is not black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Psst.....You're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
    O, Reagan was a horrible president. I suppose you could find his presidency harmed more poor Americans than Billary's did.

    I don't think there's a big gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    What I don't get is that this seems to work against other arguments that you've made about racism. Specifically, you've said that "racism isn't subtle." But you've just told us that Trump's racism is unarguable because it isn't subtle but that Hillary "hides hers."

    So which is it?

    It certainly isn't hard to see the bad outcomes, or that Hillary knew they were occuring.

    And I also notice that you almost immediately shifted ground from "racist" to "anti-poor." Like in your third post.
    What issues matter to POC, do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Bill Clinton is not black.
    No difference. Clinton was referred to as the First Black President by minorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    What issues matter to POC, do you think?
    I'm not sure. It's your thread, you tell me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    O, Reagan was a horrible president. I suppose you could find his presidency harmed more poor Americans than Billary's did.

    I don't think there's a big gap.
    So we're talking about trajectory. Reagan set it and it continued through the Clinton presidency. Tell me, do you think a true liberal Democrat could have been elected in the post-Reagan era? Instead of blaming Clinton, maybe you should blame the country that elected him. He was neither so draconian as the Republicans would have been nor as anodyne as the Dems wanted.

    (Just for the record, I hated the guy. Never voted for him. Argued his tax hike would send the economy into a tailspin. Wanted him impeached. Then I got wiser.)
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    Only the very most informed elite realize that HRC is secretly a massive racist on a level with the KKK and Donald Trump. Hell, even the POC themselves do not know it, they are lining up to vote for her in their poor deluded millions, if only they knew the real truth......Na, I cant go there even as snark, this shit is just too fucking outrageous for words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I don't think reasonable people can argue, as if it's an open question, over whether Trump is a racist.

    But too many here seem confused as to whether Hillary is a racist.

    She is, always has been, and will continue to be.

    But they are different. Hillary hides hers. She says nice things about Muhammed Ali. She has her photo taken with Al Sharpton.

    Personally, I prefer my hate full on and without any bullshit.

    Most POC I know feel the same. If you hate me, say so to my face.

    Your thoughts?
    Here is where I think you are mistaken. the government going after gangs in the 90's was no different or racist that the government going after the Italian gangs of the 30's and 40's.

    The government did not go after the Italian gangs because they were Italian...they did because they were the most organized, widespread and producing the most licit money.

    The same was true in the 90's. the government went after the most organized and the most ruthless gangs...and some were black. I say black because I remember hearing about some of the most notorious gangs being the Jamaican Posse. these dudes were hard. viscous.

    I have nothing against Jamaica, the Jamaican people, but I wanted to see the Posse controlled in Miami and Brooklyn.

    Those were the 90's. That is where our heads were at.
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