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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Bill Clinton is not black.
    but, there's a reason why they have so much support in the black community. They have both earned it. Both in subtle ways, like simply treating African American's as their equals and in the way they govern. Legislation has unintended consequences all the time. But, what you're using to claim makes Hillary Clinton a racist had bi-partisan support , including with African American's in congress. Also, btw, speaking of unintended consequences, wonder if you're aware that your position insults all the African American's that support Hillary Clinton - because you're implying they are too stupid to know how racist she is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    but, there's a reason why they have so much support in the black community. They have both earned it. Both in subtle ways, like simply treating African American's as their equals and in the way they govern. Legislation has unintended consequences all the time. But, what you're using to claim makes Hillary Clinton a racist had bi-partisan support , including with African American's in congress. Also, btw, speaking of unintended consequences, wonder if you're aware that your position insults all the African American's that support Hillary Clinton - because you're implying they are too stupid to know how racist she is?
    I am amazed at the number of POC who support Hillary -- while rejecting Bernie, yes. Just as I am amazed that liberals do, or that peaceniks do, or that feminists do. Surely you are aware, there are prominent BLM leaders ho do not support her?

    For me, the use of racist stereotypes to promote oneself -- and Billary did use the "welfare queen" during their first campaign, though not ion the outrageous way Reagan did -- is a racist act. How many racist acts can a nonracist commit, before their ability to cuddle up with prominent black Americans is not enough to absolve them of racism?

    Regardless of what is actually in her heart, I do not think Hillary is genuinely free of racism. There are things decent people do not do in an effort to reach their goals. Invoking racist stereotypes is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I don't think reasonable people can argue, as if it's an open question, over whether Trump is a racist.

    But too many here seem confused as to whether Hillary is a racist.

    She is, always has been, and will continue to be.

    But they are different. Hillary hides hers. She says nice things about Muhammed Ali. She has her photo taken with Al Sharpton.

    Personally, I prefer my hate full on and without any bullshit.

    Most POC I know feel the same. If you hate me, say so to my face.

    Your thoughts?
    I cannot believe how trump can be so blatantly racist yet his followers either deny it or just claim "Hillary is too".

    Yes Trump is a fucking racist and no Hillary is not regardless of what one's demented mind wants to conclude. You don't get 90% of the black vote by being a racist, you get more like 10%, the amount that repubs get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I am amazed at the number of POC who support Hillary -- while rejecting Bernie, yes. Just as I am amazed that liberals do, or that peaceniks do, or that feminists do. Surely you are aware, there are prominent BLM leaders ho do not support her?

    For me, the use of racist stereotypes to promote oneself -- and Billary did use the "welfare queen" during their first campaign, though not ion the outrageous way Reagan did -- is a racist act. How many racist acts can a nonracist commit, before their ability to cuddle up with prominent black Americans is not enough to absolve them of racism?

    Regardless of what is actually in her heart, I do not think Hillary is genuinely free of racism. There are things decent people do not do in an effort to reach their goals. Invoking racist stereotypes is one of them.
    and I respect your opinion because I know you haven't got a racist bone in your body. As a matter of fact, you're raising a lot of valid questions. Truth be told, not all African American's support Hillary Clinton - do they?

    So, thanks for this thread.

    These are exactly the sorts of questions we should all be asking ourselves. Like Holder once said, when it comes to discussing race we are all cowards.

    Clearly, that doesn't apply in the case of your OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    but, there's a reason why they have so much support in the black community. They have both earned it. Both in subtle ways, like simply treating African American's as their equals and in the way they govern. Legislation has unintended consequences all the time. But, what you're using to claim makes Hillary Clinton a racist had bi-partisan support , including with African American's in congress. Also, btw, speaking of unintended consequences, wonder if you're aware that your position insults all the African American's that support Hillary Clinton - because you're implying they are too stupid to know how racist she is?
    Just heard a woman shout,"He was the first Black/ White President!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I don't think reasonable people can argue, as if it's an open question, over whether Trump is a racist.

    But too many here seem confused as to whether Hillary is a racist.

    She is, always has been, and will continue to be.

    But they are different. Hillary hides hers. She says nice things about Muhammed Ali. She has her photo taken with Al Sharpton.

    Personally, I prefer my hate full on and without any bullshit.

    Most POC I know feel the same. If you hate me, say so to my face.

    Your thoughts?
    No. Sorry. I prefer Hillary Clinton's sense of propriety to Donald Trump's spittle-laced proclamations of ethnic derision.

    (And I don't think she's racist.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Really? You think they did more damage than Reagan? It was Reagan who railed against Welfare Queens and attacked entitlement programs. Bill Clinton was "triangulating" himself, shoehorning Democrats into a Republican agenda because that's where the country was and it was the only way for a Democrat to get elected president and keep the job. Is there anything Clinton did that Reagan didn't WANT to do but wasn't in office long enough to accomplish?

    We're still living in a political world that is the result of the sea change accomplished by Reagan. Clinton just floated his boat on the waves of his moment.
    Reagan said just that. Now it is funny they have twisted the story so much they blame Clinton,yet these people are allowed to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I cannot believe how trump can be so blatantly racist yet his followers either deny it or just claim "Hillary is too".

    Yes Trump is a fucking racist and no Hillary is not regardless of what one's demented mind wants to conclude. You don't get 90% of the black vote by being a racist, you get more like 10%, the amount that repubs get.
    We're now moving into the phase of Trump rationalization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    No. Sorry. I prefer Hillary Clinton's sense of propriety to Donald Trump's spittle-laced proclamations of ethnic derision.

    (And I don't think she's racist.)
    How in the world can they pretend the Clinton's are racist when he was known as the first Black President? It is pathetic the lies they post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Bill Clinton is not black.
    lol

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