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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It's out of my hands. I voted for Clinton. That's all that I could do. The American electorate made this bed, and now they're just going to have to sleep in it -- fleas and all.
    If you had voted for BERNIE none of this would be happening. It's blue dog Democrats who are ultimately to blame, apart from the actual Republicans who allow control of their party to completely slip away.

    Trump is cartoonishly unfit, always has been, and his election is a SYMPTOM of the miasma that our political arena has become.

    The only good thing to come of all this misery is, the Religious Right has been exposed for the collection of lunatics they always have been, and hopefully, this is their death knell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Probably. There's no unified interest in the GOP, and ultimately, the Congresscritters are going to act to save their careers if they believe they're in danger. If public anger grows strong enough,. Republicans perceived as "dragging their heels" will get roasted. (Here in Ohio, there's a lot of anger for Sen. Portman, for failing to denounce Trump soon enough and strongly enough before the election. This extremely popular senator had to actually work at getting reelected, when he had been considered a shoe-in.)

    There are 193 Democrats in the House ATM, and so they only need 22 Republicans to vote to start impeachment proceedings.
    I'm confident that congressional Democrats would vote to impeach Trump, but I sincerely doubt that they'll make a serious attempt to start impeachment proceedings, since doing so would be an exercise in futility if the congressional Republicans were not on board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    If you had voted for BERNIE none of this would be happening.
    Republicans for Bernie©?

    No, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    I'm confident that congressional Democrats would vote to impeach Trump, but I sincerely doubt that they'll make a serious attempt to start impeachment proceedings, since doing so would be an exercise in futility if the congressional Republicans were not on board.
    I agree; they will not be the first to demand impeachment. And they should not be.

    My point is, 22 Republicans is a very thin ledge on which to balance. It's a dead-bang certainty all 193 Democrats will vote to commence impeachment proceedings, given the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Republicans for Bernie©?

    No, thanks.
    There are probably many "Republicans for Bernie" in Congress, if by that you mean, Republicans who support progressive ideas. But none who are going to openly line up behind Bernie against Trump. That's a bit too hari-kari for them.

    None of them wants to end his or her career over this. People do not go into politics unless they are HIGHLY motivated to seek power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    There are probably many "Republicans for Bernie" in Congress, if by that you mean, Republicans who support progressive ideas.
    Only if you consider the number zero to be equivalent to "many".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Republicans for Bernie©?

    No, thanks.
    Since Bernie is not a Democrat,no thanks to Democrats this morning either.

    A host just asked him if he would turn over his mailing list to help Democrats. His answer?

    They would be working to put the right Democrats in. Not his job.

    I give Ellison credit. First thing he did was to tell his enthusiastic followers to get behind Perez so they could leave the building United. You could tell he was disappointed, but with his acceptance of Deputy Chair he made it clear they were united to work as a team.

    Bernie can now fade into the back ground.

    BTW, found out this morning our Youth Pastor is from South Bend,Indiana. Buttegeig is Mayor there. Our Dayton Mayor endorsed him. He dropped out before the first vote, but you can bet we will see more of that 35 year old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Only if you consider the number zero to be equivalent to "many".
    The Goldwater/Eisenhower Republican is not yet completely extinct, yanno. Not EVERY Republican in Congress is a wild-eyed lunatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Since Bernie is not a Democrat,no thanks to Democrats this morning either.

    A host just asked him if he would turn over his mailing list to help Democrats. His answer?

    They would be working to put the right Democrats in. Not his job.

    I give Ellison credit. First thing he did was to tell his enthusiastic followers to get behind Perez so they could leave the building United. You could tell he was disappointed, but with his acceptance of Deputy Chair he made it clear they were united to work as a team.

    Bernie can now fade into the back ground.

    BTW, found out this morning our Youth Pastor is from South Bend,Indiana. Buttegeig is Mayor there. Our Dayton Mayor endorsed him. He dropped out before the first vote, but you can bet we will see more of that 35 year old.
    Bernie is a great guy, but he's no saint. OTOH, I can easily see him deciding the Democratic Party is still not fully committed to a progressive agenda. And they aren't.

    BOTH parties need to work at re-establishing their "minor leagues", so the young people can be taught to run for office and win, and govern well. Bernie SAID that would be his focus after the election, but so far, I see no evidence of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    At my old Church I was sent a Sermon in the Prayer Chain where the Pastor compared Trump to Churchill. The Pastor said Churchill was a heavy drinker,foul mouthed old man,but did great things for Britain and Trump would do the same. Oneof the Southern Baptist preachers.
    Ay ye ye. From a preacher, no less.

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