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    And there fore you end up with a Trump who takes you backwards. It is a cruel lesson. Some learn it and some don't.
    No one has EVER been as cruel to the poor (as a POTUS) than Bill & Hillary Clinton.

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    The more free market in healthcare, the better.
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    Sanders offers bill to allow purchase of prescription drugs from Canada | TheHill

    Say whatever nasty things you want about Trump, he is not owned by the 0.01%. This bill could actually become law, and put an end to such obscenities as the $10,000 EPI Pen.

    O, and the sinister-sounding "medicines that originated all over the world" threat? Canada has better drug safety record than the US has.

    Kudos to Sen. Sanders for finding ways to work with this POTUS to bring desperatly-needed relief the Democrats NEVER intended Americans to have.

    Your thoughts?
    I'm torn. I support the premise behind this bill. We all want lower prescription drug prices.

    The article says that there may be lower safety standards in these drugs from other countries. So, similar to free trade, what are the unintended consequences? Are we going to be shutting down pharmacies in the U.S. Because we are forcing them to buy higher priced rugs that meet safety specifications that we are allowing imported drugs to not have?
    If that is the case, I guess I would rather see a bill that 1, allows drugs to be bought form Canada, AND lowers the safety standards here, so that our pharmacies are dealing with the same product and fair competition when buying and selling these drugs, in order to stay competitive.

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    HRC would never, ever have acted to reduce Big Pharma's profits. They realize just how ANGRY Americans are. We have Medicare Part D because that was the booby prize for prohibiting Americans from buying drugs in Canada. We MIGHT have got a few breadcrumbs from HRC III, is all.

    ATM, people are scandalized by the cost of the EPI pen, etc. so the moment is ripe to leverage consumer anger to get this bill passed -- but it will be tough. Big Pharma is the absolute worst at lobbying, bribing and retaliating as to Congress critters.

    Big Pharma cannot price gouge in Canada because they have universal care.
    Hillary voted against Medicare Part D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No one has EVER been as cruel to the poor (as a POTUS) than Bill & Hillary Clinton.
    That doesn't even bear answering. Sorry that is beyond the pale.
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    Where are the so-called conservatives on this? Surely they would side with the people instead of corporations.
    And if they did "side with the people instead of corporations" from 2008 to 2016, where would that have put them relative to the Obama Administration and Democratic Party leadership? In agreement, or at odds?

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    If not the people, surely they'd side with the free market, right.
    Where do you side?

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    In fact I noticed below how you blame Democrats when in fact Republicans are fully in control of the House and Senate and the Presidency so imo it is blowing hot air to pretend that anyone is holding this in their hands BUT Republicans at this point.
    Do you agree with this bill or not? And if you do, what do you have to say about the fact that Democrats did not make any remarkable attempts to address this over the last 8+ years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    I'm torn. I support the premise behind this bill. We all want lower prescription drug prices.

    The article says that there may be lower safety standards in these drugs from other countries. So, similar to free trade, what are the unintended consequences?
    Is an identical drug safer in the U.S. because it costs me $305 instead of $30? If I buy a bottle of Nexium for $305 in Montana and then drive across the border into Alberta and swallow one, is that more dangerous than if I'd swallowed it in Montana?

    Then what are you talking about? These are identical items with vastly different price tags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Is an identical drug safer in the U.S. because it costs me $305 than it is in a country where it costs $30? If I buy a bottle of Nexium for $305 in Montana and then drive across the border into Alberta and swallow one, is that more dangerous than if I'd swallowed one in Montana?
    I'm not familiar with the process.
    Did you read the article? That is what I was going off of. Maybe there are facilities in Canada producing drugs that don't have the same safety standards that our facilities have here. I don't know. You have heard of separate manufacturing facilities, right?

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    To be clear the POTUS has not done one thing to bring down prescription drug prices other than give lip service.

    Uh, what can POTUS do, and why didn't Ĝbama do anything about it? Oh, right, legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    I'm not familiar with the process.
    Did you read the article? That is what I was going off of. Maybe there are facilities in Canada producing drugs that don't have the same safety standards that our facilities have here. I don't know. You have heard of separate manufacturing facilities, right?
    Pfizer Global Sites | Pfizer: One of the world's premier biopharmaceutical companies

    Quite a few different locations around the world, and 79 manufacturing sites back in 2010.

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