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    a recurring expense of over $100 billion dollars a year, and the transferral of $50 billion a year from the US economy to Mexico's economy...

    or the expense of effective border security infrastructure and ramping up deportations.

    Which might you surmise would be less of a burden on taxpayers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    a recurring expense of over $100 billion dollars a year, and the transferral of $50 billion a year from the US economy to Mexico's economy...or the expense of effective border security infrastructure.

    Which might you surmise would be less of a burden on taxpayers?
    How are you calculating "over $100 billion dollars a year?" And remittances to Mexico are valued at about $25 billion a year; not $50 billion. 2016 set a record at $27 billion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Please explain this. In what context are the employers paying into the social security fund? It's withheld from the pay of illegal immigrants earning paychecks.
    Mr. Djinn,

    Your employer matches your contribution to Social Security. It's kinda the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    How are you calculating "over $100 billion dollars a year?" And remittances to Mexico are valued at about $25 billion a year; not $50 billion. 2016 set a record at $27 billion.
    $113 Billion comes up at the top of the page when one Bings "the costs of illegal immigration". When you figure the costs to the justice systems, corrections, healthcare insurance/healthcare provider industries, education and transfer payments to their Jackpot Babies, depressed wages, etc, that figure is quite believable.

    Mexico, South America... same difference. It's actually WAY over $50 billion...that's just the money illegals send home to their families to spend in their local economies. That doesn't account for the untold billions in drug money that leaves the US economy to support Mexican/South American economies.
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    I am always surprised to see undocumented workers actually working for companies that cut taxes. You would think they would be scared to death to expose themselves like this. How do they get around the I9 form? When I start a new college online, I have to complete a I9 and have it notarized. If I were to sneak across the border to Mexico, I would be terrified for a long time before I surfaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Please explain this. In what context are the employers paying into the social security fund? It's withheld from the pay of illegal immigrants earning paychecks.
    Social security tax on income (FICA) is about 15%, of which the employee pays half and the employer pays half. The argument is, it's misleading to consider the employer-paid portion of contributions by undocumented people. I disagree, as they earned that money just as they do their wages, and it is considered everywhere else, as to citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    $113 Billion comes up at the top of the page when one Bings "the costs of illegal immigration". ...
    You really should look at your sources; not just blindly quote whatever bubbles to the top of a search list.

    That number comes the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a group seeking reduced immigration. And they took a LOT of liberties in their calculations.

    Politifact went through the report, piece by piece. Read it for yourself. If you're having trouble reaching the site, here's a cached link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    Again - Watch your sources. Go to the "National Economics Editorial" homepage, and pick an article at random. Nearly all of the articles have the same byline: "Spencer P Morrison."

    In other words, it's a blog in disguise.
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