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    Trump Announces Plan To Invade Somalia

    Dafuq did this happen? Why wasn't Congress asked for permission? And what is the goal of this invasion?

    The US is sending "dozens" of additional troops to Somalia to train and equip the Somali National Army and the forces participating in the African Union Mission in Somalia there.

    A US military official told CNN that the new contingent would consist of about 40 soldiers.

    In an email to CNN, Charles Chuck Prichard, a spokesperson for US Africa Command, confirmed the deployment Friday, saying that the deployment of "a few dozen troops from the 101st Airborne Division" came "at the request and in close coordination with" the government of Somalia.

    "The objective of this particular train and equip mission is to improve the logistical capacity of the Somali National Army and the focus will be on teaching basic logistics operations, which will allow Somalia forces to better fight al Shabaab," the spokesman added.

    The US troops will join the small number of US special operations forces already there providing counterterrorism support to local forces battling the local al Qaeda affiliate, al Shabaab. That advisory mission has been underway for several years.
    The US military official added that there are approximately 50 counterterrorism advisers already in Somalia as part of the ongoing mission.

    The deployment was first reported by Voice of America.

    President Donald Trump last month granted additional authority to US Africa Command to conduct counterterrorism airstrikes against the terror group.

    But Africa Command made it clear that there was no link between the two.

    "It should be noted that this training was planned long before President Trump issued updated authorities related to Somalia," the spokesperson added.

    The new training effort comes as US military leaders see new opportunities to work with Somalia's newly elected president, Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo, a dual US-Somali citizen who has embarked on a series of aggressive military reforms amid an ongoing al Shabaab bombing campaign that has repeatedly struck the capital, Mogadishu.

    "With the new government there, President Farmajo, we have an opportunity here to move forward," Gen. Thomas Waldauser, the commander of Africa Command told reporters at the Pentagon last month.

    "We have a great opportunity to work with him, and we look forward to continuing our counterterrorism part," Waldhauser added.
    US sending dozens more troops to Somalia - CNNPolitics.com

    Truthfully, I thought we left Somalia altogether after Bill Clinton fucked up, in 1993. Apparently no, as even Obama had deployed US troops there, for what reason I don't know.

    On top of the civil war, war with neighbor nations, and outright lawlessness, Somalia is in the gripe of a drought, creating a famine that is killing people by the 100's. Relief efforts, as always, are severely hampered by the violence.

    So....once again....why the fuck are US troops there? What's the goal?

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    Forty soldiers going to assist in training the Somalia National Army equates to Trump invading Somalia?

    Really Madeline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Forty soldiers going to assist in training the Somalia National Army equates to Trump invading Somalia?

    Really Madeline?
    Bear in mind, I didn't realize we had any US troops already there.

    I still don't understand why we're doing this. How is this any different from the useless, wasteful, anti-human "world policeman" foreign policy Bill Clinton pursued?

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    It makes perfect sense. War and private prisons will soon be our main growth industries.
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    Will those 40 soldiers be flying into the country on commercial airlines?

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    The NAACP and others in the recent past has criticized the US government for not doing more in Africa especially after the Rwandan genocide. Somalia has a current reputation as out of control so some effort may be politically motivated. I think some Christian groups have advocated for more help too.
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    Somalia, another hell hole. Cut off all travel to and from. Vet anybody that even travels through it. In fact regardless of where they are if they are a failed state just cut off all travel. It would be a pretty easy EO to pass muster in the courts if it was a blanket statement and covered any government that fell or was toppled until order was restored to that country. If a country is in the middle of a civil war travel to and from should be cut off as well except in cases were the individual is sponsored by the US military or State Department; example they have provided a service to the US despite threats to their own life or family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGuy View Post
    The NAACP and others in the recent past has criticized the US government for not doing more in Africa especially after the Rwandan genocide. Somalia has a current reputation as out of control so some effort may be politically motivated. I think some Christian groups have advocated for more help too.
    Okay, maybe. But 40 soliders aren't going to change things. We'd have to restore law and order and then spend the money to alleviate famine.

    If we don't go all on, what sense does it make to send our kids there to die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Okay, maybe. But 40 soliders aren't going to change things. We'd have to restore law and order and then spend the money to alleviate famine.

    If we don't go all on, what sense does it make to send our kids there to die?
    No we don't need to do anything. Stay out of Somalia. Send food via UN relief but bring back all US military or people. Let them kill each other and sort it out in civil wars. Americans are sick and tired of fighting in foreign wars or supporting one side over the other. Simple solution no travel to or from any country is civil war or who has a failed state. Should anybody even passed through the county they should be vetted. America is not interested in being the world's policeman I think that one message from Americans was loud and clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Dafuq did this happen? Why wasn't Congress asked for permission? And what is the goal of this invasion?



    US sending dozens more troops to Somalia - CNNPolitics.com

    Truthfully, I thought we left Somalia altogether after Bill Clinton fucked up, in 1993. Apparently no, as even Obama had deployed US troops there, for what reason I don't know.

    On top of the civil war, war with neighbor nations, and outright lawlessness, Somalia is in the gripe of a drought, creating a famine that is killing people by the 100's. Relief efforts, as always, are severely hampered by the violence.

    So....once again....why the fuck are US troops there? What's the goal?
    That's the question that has to be answered. Why is there a US presence there? What is the goal? If we don't know, we won't know when the goal has been reached.

    Sending military advisors to a nation in civil war in order to strengthen one side in that war has been tried before. No one thought much about it in the '50s when it was just a few military advisors. By the '60s, when we had half a million soldiers fighting in that civil war, the American people began to sit up and take notice. Best we sit up and take notice now this time around and prevent a repeat of history.
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