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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    They have...generations of Republicans. They vote on identity politics just like the left...but different ones. The Dems focus on socials issues, like abortion, LBGT, minorities, control, etc. The GOP voters are against abortion, gun control, LBGT, etc. Neither focuses on what puts steaks on the table and maintaining a robust middle class. The Dems focus only on the poor and the GOP focuses mainly on the wealthy.
    Pretty much it in a nutshell, although I would add immigration is becoming a biggie. Those in rural or poorer areas view it as "we don't have enough jobs or food for ourselves, so stop bringing more in." Its also why I think Bernie and Trump did well in these areas, though they disagree on the parts, they both tend to be nationalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Pope Francis famously called voting for Trump a sin, back in last summer. I wonder if Trump realizes that, or understands what it meant?

    I bet US Catholics ignored it altogether, and they are not supposed to, not if the Pope is deliberate in his speech. One tenet of the Catholic dogma is that the Pope is infallible on matters of faith.
    Catholics went all in for Trump apparently.

    "White Catholics also supported Trump over Clinton by a wide, 23-point margin (60% to 37%), rivaling Romney’s 19-point victory among those in this group."

    How the faithful voted: A preliminary 2016 analysis | Pew Research Center
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    People in the rural areas look at voting a civic duty. They also still attend parades on holidays.
    So what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Trump is, essentially, a placeholder. Nothing much will actually happen, although the ideas will be atrocious and thus, his term in office will be noisy.

    (Caveat: as long as he keeps his mitts of the US military, that is.)

    To my eye, Hillary was and is the Great Satan. Trump was a nuisance by comparison, and I still feel that way.
    To your eye, NOT to Bernie Sander's eyes. How do you support someone, then ignore what they say when the time comes to "believe" in them? Is that like people NOT turning the other cheek, when the time comes to actually test their faith in what they claim to believe in?

    Trump a nuisance? Is that why you make so many postings about his "nuisance", stuff?

    Sorry, I agree with you a lot of places, not with this, though.

    Clinton would likely have invited Bernie to work with her and her party, since he already has and became a Democrat to run for President. That would have tested Bernie's recommendation to elect HRC, but as he said, in his recommendation and before, that on her WORST days, she was still 100 Xs BETTER than any republican running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    To your eye, NOT to Bernie Sander's eyes. How do you support someone, then ignore what they say when the time comes to "believe" in them? Is that like people NOT turning the other cheek, when the time comes to actually test their faith in what they claim to believe in?

    Trump a nuisance? Is that why you make so many postings about his "nuisance", stuff?

    Sorry, I agree with you a lot of places, not with this, though.

    Clinton would likely have invited Bernie to work with her and her party, since he already has and became a Democrat to run for President. That would have tested Bernie's recommendation to elect HRC, but as he said, in his recommendation and before, that on her WORST days, she was still 100 Xs BETTER than any republican running.
    I am a lonely little petunia in an onion patch, as regards Hillary.

    Very much a pinko, and yet, I see her as almost as evil as Nixon. There must be 500 pages of this discussion on PH by now, because much umbrage was taken by Hillarybots over my position.

    MUCH.

    I was even called some names. O, the blowback.

    Moved me to change my mind exactly fuck all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6b059e9b9257

    Well, this is a huge betrayal of Trump's promises to the people of Appalachia, at the very least. Obviously he is proposing to rape the rural poor because, as everyone else who has ever fucked them over knows, they have too few voters and no other power base at all with which to complain effectively about it.

    It's diabolical. There is widespread malnutrition already in the swathes of rural poverty in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and Western rural areas of the US. This budget would raise the spectre of actual starvation deaths -- of Americans, including children -- in those regions, if it passed. The impact of these cuts alongside the cuts Trump wants as to food stamps, etc. for all Americans would literally be life-threatening for some of our fellow citizens.

    That Sissy Spacek movie "Coal Miner's Daughter" about the lives of Kentucky coal miners and their families (and the stunningly fabulous Loretta Lynn) was a DISNEY version of the poverty that exists in the worst parts of these areas. It's a centuries-old national disgrace.



    And not for nothing, but this proposed budget sounds more and more like an austerity budget. One might even call it a subsistence proposed budget. WHY is Trump proposing such drastic cuts not just in this area, but in entitlements and elsewhere -- and yet, at the very same time, massively increasing military spending?

    Trump's proposed budget is nothing more than an evil conservative's wet dream.

    Does he just flat-out HATE Americans?

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    I'm also a Buckeye..... The Trump SCAM... is brutal to OHIO and our neighbor states. So far... if you live in COAL country.. Trump says Coal companies can POLLUTE THE WATER. However....there's ZERO to create mine jobs. The Appalachian Iniative and the Delta Initiative and stuff like Ag research,food stamps, SSDI,Education programs...... were IMPORTANT to the WHITE RURAL REDNECKS who voted for Trump. west Virginia? Damn few " people of Color" hardly ANY "transgender" persons needing to pee. West Virginia is UNDER THE DAMN BUS. Sorry bubba but YOU ARE A SERF.......the Billionaire ARISTOCRAT matters and you suckers.. are just CATTLE.

    Kentucky? Similar. Ohio? Michigan? Indiana? Wisconsin, N Carolina? Tennessee.Alabama.....bunch of CATTLE.
    The ONLY "winners" are the greediest among the richest 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    Triple Thank you.

    I'm also a Buckeye..... The Trump SCAM... is brutal to OHIO and our neighbor states. So far... if you live in COAL country.. Trump says Coal companies can POLLUTE THE WATER. However....there's ZERO to create mine jobs. The Appalachian Iniative and the Delta Initiative and stuff like Ag research,food stamps, SSDI,Education programs...... were IMPORTANT to the WHITE RURAL REDNECKS who voted for Trump. west Virginia? Damn few " people of Color" hardly ANY "transgender" persons needing to pee. West Virginia is UNDER THE DAMN BUS. Sorry bubba but YOU ARE A SERF.......the Billionaire ARISTOCRAT matters and you suckers.. are just CATTLE.

    Kentucky? Similar. Ohio? Michigan? Indiana? Wisconsin, N Carolina? Tennessee.Alabama.....bunch of CATTLE.
    The ONLY "winners" are the greediest among the richest 1%.
    Excellent points!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    To your eye, NOT to Bernie Sander's eyes. How do you support someone, then ignore what they say when the time comes to "believe" in them? Is that like people NOT turning the other cheek, when the time comes to actually test their faith in what they claim to believe in?

    Trump a nuisance? Is that why you make so many postings about his "nuisance", stuff?

    Sorry, I agree with you a lot of places, not with this, though.

    Clinton would likely have invited Bernie to work with her and her party, since he already has and became a Democrat to run for President. That would have tested Bernie's recommendation to elect HRC, but as he said, in his recommendation and before, that on her WORST days, she was still 100 Xs BETTER than any republican running.

    Odds that Trump's budget will become law?

    0.001%.

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