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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Their parents pay a ton for that bubble. If it were serious enough for a legal charge, the local authorities could file it regardless of the college's actions.
    The first amendment has very few fans anymore, even among American liberals.

    It is disturbing.

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    The first amendment has very few fans anymore, even among American liberals.

    It is disturbing.
    It's tribalism. I saw an article recently that showed this very speaker--Charles Murray--isn't objectively as conservative or objectionable as his reputation (which comes from The Bell Curve). When Murray's recent writings are read by liberals without seeing his name attached to them, they mostly labeled his ideas "middle of the road."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Their parents pay a ton for that bubble. If it were serious enough for a legal charge, the local authorities could file it regardless of the college's actions.
    Grabbing someone's head and hair and injuring them and then surrounding and beating their car is assault, property crime, and puts the occupants of the car in fear of imminent bodily harm or life. I have no idea why were not charged, but they should have been. In most states with concealed carry, the idiots could have been justifiable shot. It is better to learn a hard lesson now than some whacko shooting them later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    Grabbing someone's head and hair and injuring them and then surrounding and beating their car is assault, property crime, and puts the occupants of the car in fear of imminent bodily harm or life. I have no idea why were not charged, but they should have been. In most states with concealed carry, the idiots could have been justifiable shot. It is better to learn a hard lesson now than some whacko shooting them later.
    That's up to the law, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    Grabbing someone's head and hair and injuring them and then surrounding and beating their car is assault, property crime, and puts the occupants of the car in fear of imminent bodily harm or life. I have no idea why were not charged, but they should have been. In most states with concealed carry, the idiots could have been justifiable shot. It is better to learn a hard lesson now than some whacko shooting them later.
    UNLESS the person you grab has previously injured YOU. Is there video of this melee'?

    There are three possibilities here, as to EACH student disciplined.

    * They acted in self-defense. This means not just that they are innocent, but that the students who attacked them should be arrested.

    * Mutual combat. Everyone involved is guilty of breach of the peace and property damage, including those students who supported the speaker. Punishing some but not others based off nothing but the political POVs of these students is facially unjust.

    * They are guilty, as the were the aggressors through the incident.

    Common sense should tell you, the last possibility is the least likely. But you (appear to) have conformation bias. because you disagree with their POV, you attribute bad motives and bad acts to them based off ZERO evidence.

    There is a terrible price to be paid by all us Americans, when the government convinces some citizens to assist it in suppressing the protests of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    That's up to the law, isn't it?
    Amazing how appealing vigilantism is, ain't it?

    "Better beat the protesters today, so we aren't faced with ARMED protesters tomorrow!"

    Where in American law -- or any Western jurisprudence going all the way back to the Magna Carta -- do we bless one citizen beating another as a deterrent to the victim from considering arming himself with a weapon in case he is assaulted again in future?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    UNLESS the person you grab has previously injured YOU. Is there video of this melee'?

    There are three possibilities here, as to EACH student discipled.

    * They acted in self-defense. This means not just that they are innocent, but that the students who attacked them should be arrested.

    * Mutual combat. Everyone involved is guilty of breach of the peace and property damage, including those students who supported the speaker. Punishing some but not others based off nothing but the political POVs of these students is facially unjust.

    * They are guilty, as the were the aggressors through the incident.

    Common sense should tell you, the last possibility is the least likely. But you (appear to) have conformation bias. because you disagree with their POV, you attribute bad motives and bad acts to them based off ZERO evidence.

    There is a terrible price to be paid by all us Americans, when the government convinces some citizens to assist it in suppressing the protests of others.

    I do not understand your post in the context of what happened, the law, and the evidence. Their point of view is irrelevant. There is no mens rea protection regarding a different political view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    That's up to the law, isn't it?
    It seems as if it was not up to the law. Hopefully a civil suit will come our of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    That's up to the law, isn't it?
    Innocent until proven guilty is another American cornerstone of justice that we see is more and more despised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    I do not understand your post in the context of what happened, the law, and the evidence. Their point of view is irrelevant. There is no mens rea protection regarding a different political view.
    I need you to ask me this again. I want to answer your question, but I cannot follow it the way you said it.

    It's late....I may be mentally dimmer than usual.

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