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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    It seems as if it was not up to the law. Hopefully a civil suit will come our of this.
    How? How can any disciplinary action be taken, as a matter of natural justice, based off arrests which never happened and which might have resulted in acquittals if they had?

    And why are we not AS concerned with the blameworthiness of the students who involved who were conservatives?

    Frankly, the entire incident seems to have been a (civil) lapse in duty by the campus police, for not keeping the speaker safe and these two groups of angry students PHYSICALLY separated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    It seems as if it was not up to the law. Hopefully a civil suit will come our of this.
    Of course it was. Nothing stopped the law. And a civil suit is doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Of course it was. Nothing stopped the law. And a civil suit is doubtful.
    Against the university and its police, maybe. They owed the speaker a duty of care and they breached it, resulting in her injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Against the university and its police, maybe. They owed the speaker a duty of care and they breached it, resulting in her injuries.
    Doubtful. The speaker is male--Charles Murray--and he wasn't injured. The injured party is a tenured professor, whose injuries were minor. I can't imagine a tenured professor at a small college suing the college. She's got a job for life, which means she has to continue living around and working with the same people for the next couple of decades until she retires. That would be extremely uncomfortable. Unless she's a big enough fish that she can move elsewhere, quickly, a lawsuit would be a losing proposition overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Doubtful. The speaker is male--Charles Murray--and he wasn't injured. The injured party is a tenured professor, whose injuries were minor. I can't imagine a tenured professor at a small college suing the college. She's got a job for life, which means she has to continue living around and working with the same people for the next couple of decades until she retires. That would be extremely uncomfortable. Unless she's a big enough fish that she can move elsewhere, quickly, a lawsuit would be a losing proposition overall.
    Thanks for the correction! I was thinking of Ann Coulter at Berkeley, stupidly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Doubtful. The speaker is male--Charles Murray--and he wasn't injured. The injured party is a tenured professor, whose injuries were minor. I can't imagine a tenured professor at a small college suing the college. She's got a job for life, which means she has to continue living around and working with the same people for the next couple of decades until she retires. That would be extremely uncomfortable. Unless she's a big enough fish that she can move elsewhere, quickly, a lawsuit would be a losing proposition overall.
    The suit would be against the students involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I need you to ask me this again. I want to answer your question, but I cannot follow it the way you said it.

    It's late....I may be mentally dimmer than usual.
    I understood your post as their point of view was an excuse for their actions. I states that it was not. I may have misinterpreted your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    The suit would be against the students involved.
    First, those kids are broke, so why sue them?

    Second, the college obviously should have FORESEEN the kerfuffle and has a DUTY to the speaker which it INVITED there.

    And, the college has deep pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    First, those kids are broke, so why due them?

    Second, the college obviouslyshould have FORESEEN the kerfuffle and has a DUTY to the speaker which it INVITED there.

    And, the college has deep pockets.
    So do you think that suing someone or prosecution someone for assault should be based on their financial situation? If they were off campus and physically attacked someone, they would be arrested, and if that someone had a gun, they could end up dead.

    The college has the duty to protect the speaker, and part of that protection is preventing future attacks. This would mean sending a message by expelling the students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    So do you think that suing someone or prosecution someone for assault should be based on their financial situation? If they were off campus and physically attacked someone, they would be arrested, and if that someone had a gun, they could end up dead.

    The college has the duty to protect the speaker, and part of that protection is preventing future attacks. This would mean sending a message by expelling the students.
    Civil lawsuits for damages are ALWAYS about who has the dough to pay up.

    ALWAYS.

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