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    College Students Disciplined for Anti-Conservative Attack

    For those of you concerned about the free flow of ideas on college campuses, some good news:
    More than five dozen Middlebury College students were disciplined for their roles in shutting down a speech by the author Charles Murray in March, the college announced this week. But the students were spared the most serious penalties in the episode, which left a faculty memberinjured and came to symbolize a lack of tolerance for conservative ideas on some campuses.

    The college, in Middlebury, Vt., issued a statement on Tuesday describing sanctions against 67 students “ranging from probation to official college discipline, which places a permanent record in the student’s file.” The statement did not disclose how many students received the harsher punishment, but said, “Some graduate schools and employers require individuals to disclose official discipline in their applications.”

    None of the students were suspended or expelled.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/u...T.nav=top-news

    Seems like the right move on the College's part. Physical altercations over a campus speaker aren't cool. For those of you disappointed they weren't all expelled, I'd note to you that Middlebury only has about 2500 students, and it's a private, tuition-driven school. Losing that many paying students at once would be a serious fiscal problem for the Middlebury College.
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    I agree...expelling them would have had a impact on the college for sure. They learned their lesson from this and most likely will not do it again. Why ruin their futures?
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    what a shitty message...

    Let's hope withholding appropriate punishment because 'we need their money' doesn't give the chirrens a false sense of security and privilege to take into the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    what a shitty message...

    Let's hope withholding appropriate punishment because 'we need their money' doesn't give the chirrens a false sense of security and privilege to take into the real world.
    Colleges are businesses just like any other. You need customers to keep the doors open and the acts of 67 students should not impact the education of the other students who are there to learn and could care less about this crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    For those of you concerned about the free flow of ideas on college campuses, some good news: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/u...T.nav=top-news

    Seems like the right move on the College's part. Physical altercations over a campus speaker aren't cool. For those of you disappointed they weren't all expelled, I'd note to you that Middlebury only has about 2500 students, and it's a private, tuition-driven school. Losing that many paying students at once would be a serious fiscal problem for the Middlebury College.
    I would be very uncomfortable, expelling anyone for assault if the facts were a mutual combat situation occurred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I agree...expelling them would have had a impact on the college for sure. They learned their lesson from this and most likely will not do it again. Why ruin their futures?
    MUTUAL combat, madam. What lesson did the conservative students learn? They were not disciplned at all, but they do not appear to be any less responsible to the victim for the injuries.
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    None of the students were suspended or expelled sends the wrong message. Some of the students should have been expelled and some should have been criminally charged. There were students who participated in physical assault. Outside of their bubble, they would have been charged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    what a shitty message...

    Let's hope withholding appropriate punishment because 'we need their money' doesn't give the chirrens a false sense of security and privilege to take into the real world.
    Do you have any idea how many of the most famous riots in American history were found to have been the result of criminal misconduct by the police?

    * 1992, LA. Brawling on a street corner after the Rodney King trial acquittals results in RADIO CALLS to all LA cops to abandon the entire South Central area, leaving the residents and visitors to cope as best they can. 3 days of unrest, over 100 killed, and $3 billion in damages.

    Then-chief Darryl Gates is today widely regarded as the worst police chief in U.S. history for this conflagration.

    http://timelines.latimes.com/los-angeles-riots/

    * 1968 Democratic Convention Riots

    Chicago Mayor Richard Daley had created a police state unlike anything ever before seen in any US city then at rest BEFORE the convention. Students protesting the war gathered in a park miles away, and were told by police "there would be trouble" if they attempted to protest within sight of the arena. They did and there was, and it was 100% the fault of the police. Mayor Daley used the cops as thugs to try and prevent the kids from making revolutionary sounds in the streets -- as the convention proceeded to nominate Humphrey, who was pro-war. Corrupt practices widely reported at the time maneuvered McCarthy (who was anti-war) out of the nomination. This was not just a fight to end the war, Daddio. The GOP convention earlier that year was between Nixon and Reagan -- who was OPENLY calling for the nuclear bombing of North Vietnam.

    There may have never been a MORE important occasion on which to take to the streets to shout abuse of the government than in Chicago in 1968.

    1968 Democratic Convention | History | Smithsonian

    The "Chicago Eight" trial of famous student and civil rights leaders held later, on such charges crossing state lines to incite a riot, ended in convictions in a rigged trial, all of which were reversed on appeal.

    The Chicago Eight Conspiracy Trial: An Account

    The March on Selma, the Stonewall Riots, even the Haymarket Riots in 1886 over labor rights, were massive aggressions by the police at the direction of the PTB, against your fellow citizens agitating over some pretty important human rights.

    Haymarket Square Riot - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

    This is not just my opinion. This is a historical fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    None of the students were suspended or expelled sends the wrong message. Some of the students should have been expelled and some should have been criminally charged. There were students who participated in physical assault. Outside of their bubble, they would have been charged.
    Their parents pay a ton for that bubble. If it were serious enough for a legal charge, the local authorities could file it regardless of the college's actions.
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