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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    You wanted to keep Saddam in power because he kept stability in the region.

    Or have you changed your mind on that now.
    Hitler and Mussolini brought stability to Europe?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Hitler and Mussolini brought stability to Europe?!
    I wasn't the one that made the point about keeping fascism in Europe.

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    Think about the Oklahoma bombing. We have always had domestic terrorist attacks by US born and bred citizens. I think the issue may be that Americans simply don't recognize domestic terrorism as terrorism. When they strike Americans say they are mentally ill or call them anything but what they are. It makes them feel safer. 33,000 people die here every year from guns. We don't care. We only care when a handful of people die somewhere else. We look for Muslims as our own are killing us. Beyoncé is like many in America, disassociating the violence here from violence there. Our domestic terrorism attacks make the same headlines abroad as their domestic terrorism makes here. It would be funny if it were not so weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    He would prefer the "good old days" when Europe was united under a fascist regime.
    Not the UK! Never them.



    AND without US help, for most of war.
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    Beyonce' needs her PR team. Running down other parts of the world as "lawless" and "dangerous" compared to the US is not a smart career move for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Beyonce' needs her PR team. Running down other parts of the world as "lawless" and "dangerous" compared to the US is not a smart career move for her.
    Well it is a hard case to make that is for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    The widespread policy of immigration filtering throughout western Europe. While it is not universal there is an overwhelming standard throughout the region. Immigration acceptance in that region today is a liberal idea.

    You also have the acceptance of universal healthcare throughout the region.

    Another part of the liberal agenda.

    Same thing for education, workers rights, taxes..........its all tied into the liberal agenda which is how that area is leaning. While you can find examples that contradict it from a geopolitical view there is no denying it. These ideals have led to the rise of terrorism in that region making it more unstable and hence, more dangerous.
    Universal health care, education, taxes, and workers rights are contributing to terrorism in Europe, okie dokie. Where do you come up with this hair brained shit?
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    The opposite of Liberal is Fascist. Your simpleton equation is Liberal=bad must mean that Fascist=good? Does that pretty much cover your ideology?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    The widespread policy of immigration filtering throughout western Europe. While it is not universal there is an overwhelming standard throughout the region. Immigration acceptance in that region today is a liberal idea.
    Migration has been a characteristic of all animals, including the human animal, since we first came out of Africa. It is not an ideological or party political concept. Neither progress, nor indeed, any of our societies, would be extant without migratory movement. The history of the Eurasian continent in particular has been one of migration. You are indeed unwittingly correct in labelling the acceptance of immigration as 'liberal' - not in the perverted US political sense of the word, but in the original and correct meaning of the term = accepting of progress and change, generous, unstinting, and accepting of diverse opinions. Without migration, ideas do not travel, and education is limited to the tribal and provincial level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    You also have the acceptance of universal healthcare throughout the region.

    Another part of the liberal agenda.
    Again, you are unwittingly correct in the proper sense of the word 'liberal'. Universal healthcare is common to all developed nations who would be civilisations. That your nation chooses to remain a military/industrial complex wherein the only currency is material success, does not mean that more enlightened societies are deficient in any way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Same thing for education, workers rights, taxes..........its all tied into the liberal agenda which is how that area is leaning. While you can find examples that contradict it from a geopolitical view there is no denying it.
    You write as though there is international consensus devolving about the narrow American conservative view, and that universal health care, education, workers rights, and so on, are recognised evils in the world. That is simply not a sane position.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    These ideals have led to the rise of terrorism in that region making it more unstable and hence, more dangerous.
    What has led to terrorism has been the power plays, greed, national meddling, support of Fascist regimes, and exploitation by the powerful oligarchs in charge of many western nations - the United States in particular. The invasion of Iraq being one case in point, but there is a long and sorry history of European and American meddling since colonial times. The ideals of civilised nations never lead to terrorism - it is the uncivilised aims of nations for whom the profit motive is the be all and end all, which leads to revolt and terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Universal health care, education, taxes, and workers rights are contributing to terrorism in Europe, okie dokie. Where do you come up with this hair brained shit?
    I never said that.

    I said there is pervasive influence of liberalism throughout Europe.

    Part of that is their view of immigration which does indeed lead to making the area more dangerous.

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