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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Nobody agreed with you.

    Nobody.

    Does not matter if they agree or not, That is what the Management by the Department of Interior states under the trump Budget.

    The horses captured horses is to help fund the habitat management for the Horses that remain in the wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    From what I looked up it costs 125 bucks to adopt one of these animals. That is pretty cheap. From what I can tell the money saved will come from the BLM no longer being required to keep checking on the animals once sold.
    I'd make an educated guess that simply caring for a horse for one month costs much more than $125.

    I highly doubt the majority of adopters are going to be selling these animals off.
    Why? People want to generate a profit. How do you generate revenue from a wild horse?

    The BLM adoption program also still tracks buyers so somebody coming in adopting large numbers of these animals will definitely raise suspicion. It would be like going to a shelter and adopting every animal in there and doing it every month, people are going to investigate that.
    Good point; thanks for the warning. I'll give you $500 to buy two horses for me; keep the change. And I'll make the same offer to nine other people who want some quick and easy cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Does not matter if they agree or not, That is what the Management by the Department of Interior states under the trump Budget.

    The horses captured horses is to help fund the habitat management for the Horses that remain in the wild.
    Trump's employees are saying publically they agree with Trump?

    Color me *shocked*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I'd make an educated guess that simply caring for a horse for one month costs much more than $125.



    Why? People want to generate a profit. How do you generate revenue from a wild horse?



    Good point; thanks for the warning. I'll give you $500 to buy two horses for me; keep the change. And I'll make the same offer to nine other people who want some quick and easy cash.
    Ultimately it matters not what buyers do with the horses.

    They will no longer exist as wild herds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I heard Ball Park franks were going extinct under Trump, too.
    Yanno, I expected more give a fuck from a Texan gentleman on this issue.

    All hat, no cattle, Daddio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I'd make an educated guess that simply caring for a horse for one month costs much more than $125.



    Why? People want to generate a profit. How do you generate revenue from a wild horse?



    Good point; thanks for the warning. I'll give you $500 to buy two horses for me; keep the change. And I'll make the same offer to nine other people who want some quick and easy cash.
    From what I read, horse meat is pretty popular in places like France and Belgium. American horse meat is considered the best of the best. Horses are shipped to Mexico or Canada, slaughtered then sold to chefs in these other nations. Apparently the healthier the horse the higher price it can fetch with wild horses being at the very top. I haven't been able to find out exactly how much one goes for but yes it seems there is a very high profit margin in it.

    Still, horses are really just an animal people eat for meat, its considered some of the best meat in the world. Is it really any different then selling other animals for meat? Once you get past the idealization of them in American culture they are really just another animal.

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    The problem here is that cutting the budget will result in over population of the horses.

    The horses are an invasive species that damage the ecosystem and all of them need to go. Eliminating the wild horses is the best thing that could happen.

    When all the US horse slaughter houses shut down it resulted in hundreds of thousands of unwanted horses in the private sector was well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The problem here is that cutting the budget will result in over population of the horses.

    The horses are an invasive species that damage the ecosystem and all of them need to go. Eliminating the wild horses is the best thing that could happen.

    When all the US horse slaughter houses shut down it resulted in hundreds of thousands of unwanted horses in the private sector was well.
    No it won't.

    Nothing is changing with their practice except the part about tracking the animals after they are sold.

    Everything else stays the same as it is today.

    However, I would agree with opening up slaughter houses again, it would prevent the inhumane way they are shipped over the border.

    I have absolutely no problem with raising horses for meat for those that want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The problem here is that cutting the budget will result in over population of the horses.

    The horses are an invasive species that damage the ecosystem and all of them need to go. Eliminating the wild horses is the best thing that could happen.

    When all the US horse slaughter houses shut down it resulted in hundreds of thousands of unwanted horses in the private sector was well.
    Horses are NOT 'an invasive species' in the West. North America was FULL of horses before the arrival of the Paleo-Indians some 14,000 years ago. Horses were one of MANY genera of large mammals that went extinct in the Americas at about that time, due either to human over-hunting, climate change, or a combination of the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Horses are NOT 'an invasive species' in the West. North America was FULL of horses before the arrival of the Paleo-Indians some 14,000 years ago. Horses were one of MANY genera of large mammals that went extinct in the Americas at about that time, due either to human over-hunting, climate change, or a combination of the two.
    The wild horses in the US descended from domesticated horses brought here from Europe.

    The horses should be removed from the ecosystem and leave it to the animals that survived on their own.
    Last edited by Libertine; 31st May 2017 at 07:17 AM.

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