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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The problem here is that cutting the budget will result in over population of the horses.

    The horses are an invasive species that damage the ecosystem and all of them need to go. Eliminating the wild horses is the best thing that could happen.

    When all the US horse slaughter houses shut down it resulted in hundreds of thousands of unwanted horses in the private sector was well.
    It's more humane if they cannot be preserved as a wild species, possibly.

    But for $10 million out of $4 trillion, can't we protect this species that means so much to most Americans?

    Would you be contented with only keeping bald eagles in zoos? Allowing them to go extinct in America as a wild species?

    I feel these horses matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The wild horses in the US descended from domesticated horses brought here from Europe.

    The horses should be removed from the ecosystem and leave it to the animals that survived on their own.
    Bad on the history, bad on the science, bad on the humanity.

    This post fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Horses are NOT 'an invasive species' in the West. North America was FULL of horses before the arrival of the Paleo-Indians some 14,000 years ago. Horses were one of MANY genera of large mammals that went extinct in the Americas at about that time, due either to human over-hunting, climate change, or a combination of the two.
    THESE horses have not interbred with domestic horses to any appreciable degree since Columbus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    It's more humane if they cannot be preserved as a wild species, possibly.

    But for $10 million out of $4 trillion, can't we protect this species that means so much to most Americans?

    Would you be contented with only keeping bald eagles in zoos? Allowing them to go extinct in America as a wild species?

    I feel these horses matter.
    Do you feel the same way about feral hogs and feral cats?

    We would be better off without the feral horses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    It's more humane if they cannot be preserved as a wild species, possibly.

    But for $10 million out of $4 trillion, can't we protect this species that means so much to most Americans?

    Would you be contented with only keeping bald eagles in zoos? Allowing them to go extinct in America as a wild species?

    I feel these horses matter.
    Oh please, if you cared about the eagles you wouldn't be building windmills which are decimating their populations.

    This move by Trump is purely administrative, it won't harm their populations whatsoever.

    More fake news from the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    Do you feel the same way about feral hogs and feral cats?

    We would be better off without the feral horses.
    Hogs and cats aren't as cute, those are ok.

    Pure hypocrisy.

    Liberals only want to save the cute species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    They will not go extinct under the Trump plan the over population will be avoided by capturing and selling horses to keep the harem population within acceptable limits of the ecosystem where they are located.
    You think that doesn't happen now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post


    The thrill of watching wild American horses is over forever, if Trump has his way.



    Mustangs: Facts About America's Wild Horses

    This is a EXTREMELY valuable, iconic American animal and one that is fairly cheap to manage. These horses have no natural predators; we do not feed them or give them medical care when they are injured. Once a year, the Bureau of Land Management "herds" them so that Americans interested in adopting one may do so. This is done to assure the size of herds do not exceed the carrying capacity of the range we prefer them to have.



    Wild horses could be sold for slaughter in Trump budget plan - ABC News

    Making the American wild horse extinct ON PURPOSE, to save a few bucks, is akin to Australia eradicating all its koalas, or Russia setting out to kill all its Siberian tigers.





    @Leo2, @The Man.....amirite?

    Trump lacks the depth of humanity to appreciate that the animals have a significant place in the American story of who we are and who our forefathers were. I wouldn't be surprised if next, we discover he plans to cease funding programs to protect the American Bald Eagle.



    If it doesn't yield a "profit", our soulless POTUS sees no reason at at it should survive. ALL living things -- including homo sapiens.

    Tell your Congresscritters, this horse-killing proposed budget change absolutely must not pass.
    Why would you compare native species to non native species, especially ones descended from the same ancestors of the domestic animals you can see at your local county fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    You think that doesn't happen now?
    The average wild horse is being kept in a corral in Susanville.

    There's usually hundreds there waiting to be adopted. I really don't recommend it though because anything older than a few months needs years of training to overcome the effects of fight or flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The wild horses in the US descended from domesticated horses brought here from Europe.

    The horses should be removed from the ecosystem and leave it to the animals that survived on their own.
    So what? So WHAT that the wild horses of today are descended from domesticated horses brought here from Europe?!?? They are the SAME species, Equus equus, and horses WERE native to North America, whether you are willing to admit the fact or not.
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