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    Russia, say what one may want about Putin, now has armed paramilitary security protecting their natural reserves.

    Here is US action movie star, goid friend of Putin (and Russian citizen, now lol) Steven Seagal visiting Kronotsky Reserve on Kamchatka Peninsula, Russian Far East, not long ago


    It's home for many bears


    including rare albino bears, at least one was captured on photo by tourists last year


    As you see, they are well guarded Good to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Most likely? The Paleo-Indians who arrived in the American continents some 14,000 years ago hunted them to extinction. This was BEFORE any animals other than the dog had been domesticated...

    So were the Paleo-Indians supposed to say to each other, "Hey, you know, these are animals that we could DOMESTICATE some day, and then we might even be able to RIDE them, so we should be REAL careful not to hunt them to extinction in the meantime"?!??
    Meohippus was not the ancestor of today's wild mustang. Bodywise they looked and were built more like a dog and weren't much bigger than the larger dog breeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    If horses were native to North America, how come the aboriginal peoples, the "Injuns", as you Americans call them lol never rode horses until white settlers passed that custom to them?
    I'm not sure scientists know. We lost a lot of large mammal species at approximately the same time.

    Volcanic eruption, mayhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The wild horses in the US descended from domesticated horses brought here from Europe.

    The horses should be removed from the ecosystem and leave it to the animals that survived on their own.
    They've survived on their own in the west for a couple of hundred years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    They've survived on their own in the west for a couple of hundred years.
    Ayup. They would increase their numbers much faster, absent human interaction.

    No domestic horse would last even one winter, and it would not form a herd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Ayup. They would increase their numbers much faster, absent human interaction.

    No domestic horse would last even one wintrr, and it would not form a herd.
    Horses are naturally heard animals and as long as there was forage a domestic horse would make it just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Russia, say what one may want about Putin, now has armed paramilitary security protecting their natural reserves.

    Here is US action movie star, goid friend of Putin (and Russian citizen, now lol) Steven Seagal visiting Kronotsky Reserve on Kamchatka Peninsula, Russian Far East, not long ago

    It's home for many bears

    including rare albino bears, at least one was captured on photo by tourists last year


    As you see, they are well guarded Good to know.
    Are you suggesting we round up the wild horses and feed them to the bears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Ayup. They would increase their numbers much faster, absent human interaction.

    No domestic horse would last even one wintrr, and it would not form a herd.
    You have no idea what you are discussing do you? Domestic horses certainly have the herd instinct and I guess you must not know that they certainly survive the Alaskan and Canadian winters.

    I bet you don't think wild horses are wormed, have their hooves trimmed, fed, receive other various vet services. Of course they are generally tranquilized before some of these procedures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    Horses are naturally heard animals and as long as there was forage a domestic horse would make it just fine.
    Our wild horse herds receive much more than just forage. Vaccines, worming, just to name two. Most are from almost 100% domestic stock.

    We used to have a wild horse trainer at our facility. She found that her "wild mustang" horses caught by the BLM in Eastern California/Western Nevada were almost pure Quarter horse when she sent their DNA in to some Mustang registry.
    Last edited by Panzareta; 31st May 2017 at 12:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    Horses are naturally heard animals and as long as there was forage a domestic horse would make it just fine.
    Here's the evolution of American Wild Mustangs documentary you requested.



    "Herd" is a complex set of behaviors that is taught to young horses and/or encoded in their DNA, or both.

    Domestic horses released in the wild have almost no chance at 1 year survival.

    if you drop a 1 year old cocker spaniel off in the middle of nowhere, will he "be just fine"? Of course not. That's why pet dumping is crime.

    Domestic cats are different. They are not entirely domestic, no matter how strong the bond might be with their humans. My cat will stalk birds, etc. The domestic cat population is a threat to wild bird populations all over the planet.

    http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elemen...s-domesticated

    Cats also instinctively know how to fuck. Very few American horses OTHER than the wild mustangs have ever had sex free of human intervention, and if they attempt it and fail, they can easily break a leg, which is 100% fatal.

    http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elemen...s-domesticated
    Last edited by Madeline; 31st May 2017 at 12:22 PM.
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