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    Wild American Horses Will Go Extinct Under Trump Budget



    The thrill of watching wild American horses is over forever, if Trump has his way.

    Mustangs are descendants of Spanish, or Iberian, horses that were brought to the Americas by Spanish explorers in the 16th century. The name was derived from the Spanish word mustengo, which means "ownerless beast" or "stray horse." Many people think that mustangs are simply wild horses rather than a specific breed. These horses bred with other types of horses,

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    Horses belong to the genus Equus, which originated in North America about 4 million years ago and spread to Eurasia (presumably by crossing the Bering land bridge) 2 to 3 million years ago. The last prehistoric North American horses died out between 13,000 and 11,000 years ago, at the end of the Pleistocene, but by then Equus had spread to Asia, Europe, and Africa.

    After the Spaniards re-introduced horses to the Americas, the Native Americans soon used these beasts for transportation. Pioneers liked these horses because they have fantastic stamina and speed. Plus, their stockier legs make them less prone to injury, making them ideal for long journeys. Since then, mustangs have been bred with French or thoroughbred horses.

    Because mustangs are descendents of escaped domesticated horses, wildlife management agencies consider them to be "feral" rather than "wild," although this designation is controversial among mustang advocates. The Tarpan and the Przewalski are the only two breeds of truly wild horses to ever be discovered.

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    Mustangs: Facts About America's Wild Horses

    This is a EXTREMELY valuable, iconic American animal and one that is fairly cheap to manage. These horses have no natural predators; we do not feed them or give them medical care when they are injured. Once a year, the Bureau of Land Management "herds" them so that Americans interested in adopting one may do so. This is done to assure the size of herds do not exceed the carrying capacity of the range we prefer them to have.

    President Donald Trump's budget proposal calls for saving $10 million next year by selling wild horses captured throughout the U.S. West without the requirement that buyers guarantee the animals won't be resold for slaughter.

    Wild-horse advocates say the change would gut nearly a half-century of protection for an icon of the American West and could send thousands of free-roaming mustangs to foreign slaughterhouses for processing as food.

    They say the Trump administration is kowtowing to livestock interests who don't want the region's estimated 59,000 mustangs competing for precious forage across more than 40,000 square miles (103,600 square kilometers) of rangeland in 10 states managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management.
    Wild horses could be sold for slaughter in Trump budget plan - ABC News

    Making the American wild horse extinct ON PURPOSE, to save a few bucks, is akin to Australia eradicating all its koalas, or Russia setting out to kill all its Siberian tigers.





    @Leo2, @The Man.....amirite?

    Trump lacks the depth of humanity to appreciate that the animals have a significant place in the American story of who we are and who our forefathers were. I wouldn't be surprised if next, we discover he plans to cease funding programs to protect the American Bald Eagle.



    If it doesn't yield a "profit", our soulless POTUS sees no reason at at it should survive. ALL living things -- including homo sapiens.

    Tell your Congresscritters, this horse-killing proposed budget change absolutely must not pass.
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    I don't get it.

    It doesn't say they are increasing the number of horses sold, only about what happens to the ones sold afterwards.

    How is that going to make them extinct?

    And frankly, if people want to sell horses to foreign markets for slaughter its far easier and cheaper to simply breed them, not wait for the government round up.

    While its apparently almost free to adopt one of these animals the amount of hoops to jump through doesn't seem to make it worth the effort to sell them to foreign markets for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    ... And frankly, if people want to sell horses to foreign markets for slaughter its far easier and cheaper to simply breed them, not wait for the government round up. ...
    I'm no expert when it comes to raising horses, but from what I gather the cost of raising a horse (including feeding, sheltering, grooming, etc.*) is NOT cheap. If you're planning to slaughter a horse, it makes more fiscal sense to buy a fully grown one, unless they're phenomenally expensive.




    * Not to mention the cost of the time spent doing all these things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I'm no expert when it comes to raising horses, but from what I gather the cost of raising a horse (including feeding, sheltering, grooming, etc.*) is NOT cheap. If you're planning to slaughter a horse, it makes more fiscal sense to buy a fully grown one, unless they're phenomenally expensive.




    * Not to mention the cost of the time spent doing all these things
    From what I looked up it costs 125 bucks to adopt one of these animals.

    That is pretty cheap. From what I can tell the money saved will come from the BLM no longer being required to keep checking on the animals once sold.

    I highly doubt the majority of adopters are going to be selling these animals off.

    The BLM adoption program also still tracks buyers so somebody coming in adopting large numbers of these animals will definitely raise suspicion. It would be like going to a shelter and adopting every animal in there and doing it every month, people are going to investigate that.

    I am no expert either but I believe the people that do this go out and round up the animals themselves.

    There is also no increase in the number of animals being sold so the idea that this will cause them to go extinct makes no sense.

    Apparently there are about 137,000 horses shipped to Mexico and Canada each year for slaughter but these are mainly the old and sick horses although there is plenty of abuse on the route and its not always done humanely. The US has no slaughterhouses for horses left.

    I am sure there are a few people or companies that do this as their business but it seems to me there are plenty of horses to collect without having to resort to the practice of adopting them from the BLM.

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    How many humans will become EXTINCT under Trump?
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    They will not go extinct under the Trump plan the over population will be avoided by capturing and selling horses to keep the harem population within acceptable limits of the ecosystem where they are located.

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    I've seen wild horses and it was like the Grand Canyon.

    Exciting for about 5 minutes then it's just a bunch of horses wandering around.

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    wild horses are neat on the outer banks.
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    I heard Ball Park franks were going extinct under Trump, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    They will not go extinct under the Trump plan the over population will be avoided by capturing and selling horses to keep the harem population within acceptable limits of the ecosystem where they are located.
    Nobody agreed with you.

    Nobody.

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