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    It's already a problem. Oxy is the only thing that worked for my mother and she couldn't get it. I ended up calling the Dr. at the hospital to see if she would continue prescribing it and she said yes, but none of her regular drs would. If she never went to hospital to meet this Dr she would never have had a day of relief from really high pain levels.
    Your mom could have used morphine, if the codeine drugs weren't controlling her pain.

    Oxytocin does not meet a need other drug can do.

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    What is terrible about it? It's designed to help NOT create new addicts. They can't help what current addicts do.
    Bullshit. That company plans to commence worldwide distribution soon.

    Now, knowing what their poison does.

    And they continue to sell in the US.

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    Here's a secret about all of these opiates: A 'side-effect' is a 'false sense of well-being' and that to many people is NOT a side effect. It's the intended effect and nothing, absolutely nothing the government does is going to do anything about that except cause them to turn to unsafe street drugs.

    Produce the drugs, stop putting fucking acetaminophen in my hydrocodone to try and save addicts from themselves. They are only endangering the livers and upsetting the stomachs of myself and other non-addicts with that shit!

    People have to be responsible for themselves. We already have federal and state funded rehabs out the wazoo.
    These effects on emotion are not predictable. Not everyone gets high.

    You are welcome to be angry that people like to get high, but not to use that to excuse Oxycotin's manfacture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Your mom could have used morphine, if the codeine drugs weren't controlling her pain.

    Oxytocin does not meet a need other drug can do.
    Morphine did not control her pain. Oxy did. You are incorrect, madam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    These effects on emotion are not predictable. Not everyone gets high.

    You are welcome to be angry that people like to get high, but not to use that to excuse Oxycotin's manfacture.
    I'm not angry at people for getting high. I am angry at the war on drugs that is a complete failure and always will be.
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    Opiates cover a huge variety of drugs, ranging from legal drugs such as fentanyl, codeine, and morphine to illegal drugs such as heroin and opium.

    Examples of opiates include:

    Heroin.
    Morphine.
    Oxycodone (trade names include: OxyContin and Percocet).
    Hydrocodone (trade names include: Vicodin and Lortab).
    Codeine.
    Fentanyl.


    What is the point of getting rid of just one? Or you want to take away all legal pain relief? I have a bottle of Codeine. An addict could take enough of that to OD too, they just seek the highest powered they can get. My mother couldn't take that or hydrocodone. Allergic to that fucking acetaminophen in it. It's there to try and make addicts vomit before they overdose. That makes me angry too. It isn't good for my stomach or my liver. Why should it have to be in mine for the government to feel good about trying to save addicts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Your mom could have used morphine, if the codeine drugs weren't controlling her pain.

    Oxytocin does not meet a need other drug can do.
    Is Morphine good for addicts? The problem here is addicts, not the drug. People move on to scoring heroin if you take their oxy. Regular oxy isn't going anywhere anyway, only this time-release is on the table. Take away Oxy and the underground Morphine and/or hydrocodone trade will go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Opiates cover a huge variety of drugs, ranging from legal drugs such as fentanyl, codeine, and morphine to illegal drugs such as heroin and opium.

    Examples of opiates include:

    Heroin.
    Morphine.
    Oxycodone (trade names include: OxyContin and Percocet).
    Hydrocodone (trade names include: Vicodin and Lortab).
    Codeine.
    Fentanyl.


    What is the point of getting rid of just one? Or you want to take away all legal pain relief? I have a bottle of Codeine. An addict could take enough of that to OD too, they just seek the highest powered they can get. My mother couldn't take that or hydrocodone. Allergic to that fucking acetaminophen in it. It's there to try and make addicts vomit before they overdose. That makes me angry too. It isn't good for my stomach or my liver. Why should it have to be in mine for the government to feel good about trying to save addicts?
    Because, Ocycotin has a horrendous side effect. It makes physically addicted full blown addicts when taken as directed for as little as one month, more often three.

    NONE of the other pain meds have this horror show impact, and Oxyvotin fills no gap in the pharmacopia.

    The "war on drugs" is not usually taken to mean allowing Big Pharma to poison the public.

    Drugs that must be dispensed by a doctor, etc. , are beyond the public's ability to use at home, unsupervised.

    SAVING addicts is a separate problem from not MAKING addicts out of innocent, law abiding people just because they saw their doctor for a painful condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Because, Ocycotin has a horrendous side effect. It makes physically addicted full blown addicts when taken as directed for as little as one month, more often three.

    NONE of the other pain meds have this horror show impact, and Oxyvotin fills no gap in the pharmacopia.

    The "war on drugs" is not usually taken to mean allowing Big Pharma to poison the public.

    Drugs that must be dispensed by a doctor, etc. , are beyond the public's ability to use at home, unsupervised.

    SAVING addicts is a separate problem from not MAKING addicts out of innocent, law abiding people just because they saw their doctor for a painful condition.
    That's any on the list. I was quickly stepped down by my Dr from hydrocodone to codeine to OTC for this reason. The body starts a tolerance level in 10 days. People get on the highway with hydrocodone all the time. It doesn't mean we take away pain relief for everyone. Again, also, Oxy isn't going anywhere. For whatever reason this extended release is being demonized here and that is the only thing on the chopping block.

    I expressed addiction concerns to my mother's pharmacist, and he said do not worry. As long as she takes only what she needs for pain she will be fine. Addicted doesn't really come into the equation when you need something forever. I need food forever but I am not addicted to food. She had chronic pain and Oxy is the ONLY thing that did anything for it.

    It isn't the fault of the drug if people take it too long for temporary pain. Or if Drs are stupid. Another time I got on hydrocodone my Dr said no more. You can do PT or something else but not this. I felt a little addicty. !!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't take it away!

    To this day I have one left of the Narco brand. And sort of salivate when I see it. It even has pretty pink dots on it like it's candy. It's candy to me! Makes my back pain vanish and I FEEL GOOD. Toss a Mexican coke down with it and I'm a wee bit high. Fucking love that stuff. But I don't want to turn into a REAL addict, so I declined to go to a pain management clinic which was my other choice from Dr. I said nah, he's right. I have to OTC, do my exercises, and often just cope with it unaided.

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