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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No. Not in this context.

    Not comparing these hideous anti-human devices to the nuclear bomb, either.
    How can you criticize one and not the others?

    It resulted in the death of innocent civilians in all cases.

    Are you saying there are times when you condone the mass slaughter of civilians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Does it bother you that we fire bombed entire cities in WWII to win the war?
    Like Dresden, the city with zero weapons or military targets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    In Vietnam we used a weapon called an M79 grenade launcher and it would fire a number of different rounds meant for specific purposes. One of those was what we called Willy-Peter or white phosphorus. It is a very nasty substance. It will burn intensely into whatever it makes contact with and it will continue to burn until there is nothing left to destroy. It had specific uses to reveal hidden weapons or to clear an area but its use as a personal weapon on humans is atrocious. It's like napalm on steroids and napalm was eventually found to be in violation of Geneva convention. I don't know the current status of Willy-Peter but it should not be used on people. If the intent is to kill, bullets will accomplish that and more swiftly and without the cruel nature of chemical agents. We shouldn't take the moral high ground on Syria if we use Willy-Peter on human beings.
    Why does Monsanto still exist? The executives should be In prison, the stock and company assets burned on the pyre.

    It's an obscenity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Like Dresden, the city with zero weapons or military targets?
    Yes. There was a strategic value to that bombing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    How can you criticize one and not the others?

    It resulted in the death of innocent civilians in all cases.

    Are you saying there are times when you condone the mass slaughter of civilians?
    Yes.

    But this is hardly my decision. The Geneva convention was signed after WWI, to prevent any other nation from making war with mustard gas, etc.

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    Political killing is called war, not recess.

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    Its debatable whether the killing of civilians helps or hurts a war effort.

    There are cases of both happening.

    When taking it from that perspective the ways in which you do it becomes fairly irrelevant.

    Whether its the bomb described in your OP or a tomahawk or a hellfire missile or sarin gas or massive carpet bombing, there are going to be causalities when you engage in this sort of warfare.

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    Anyone have that list of wars in which no innocent civilians were killed?

    Yeah, I didn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Anyone have that list of wars in which no innocent civilians were killed?

    Yeah, I didn't think so.
    There are plenty of wars where innocent civilians were not targeted and killed as part of the war effort.
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    "We can win this war if we just kill everybody in every major city, man, woman and child"

    Genghis Kahn and Attila the Hun

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    Last edited by OldGaffer; 11th June 2017 at 11:11 AM.
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