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    The Iraq war was a very profitable ruse and was wrong but the ultimate in stupidity was removing Saddam. That's why Bush Sr didn't do it and even Darth Cheney knew it was the wrong thing to do. But, stupid is as stupid does. (Forrest Gump)



    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Well we are in agreement then.

    However, we have the means but not the will to take those steps.

    I was against the war in Iraq but I wasn't against taking out Saddam but politically and legally we are not allowed to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I didn't notice terrorists focusing on only our military units.
    Not too many American civilians in the ME. Our soldiers stationed there do not take their families along.

    Even our state department employees rarely take their families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Sorry don't believe we use it anymore. And I have been in the U.S. Military and was a munitions and weapons specialist. Furthermore what the hell source is anti media? Could be Russian propaganda for all I know.
    I was just going to post this. I doubt very seriously what this article states is true. This would be exploding on every MSM site..and Anti Media sounds like a fake news source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I was just going to post this. I doubt very seriously what this article states is true. This would be exploding on every MSM site..and Anti Media sounds like a fake news source.
    This reporter based this article in videos posted by Iran, claiming to show U.S. led forces firing WP bombs over populated areas of Iraq, including a hospital. He could be lying, or the videos could be faked.

    However......

    I certainly HOPE it isn't true, but no, I do not believe the MSM would give this story ANY play, if it were.

    Are you confused as to who owns the MSM, and whose interests they serve?

    Under the 1980's revisions to the Geneva convention, these bombs should not even exist. How is it Monsanto is still selling them, whether to the U.S. military or to anyone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Still no list of wars in which no innocent civilians were killed?

    I didn't think so...
    Reading the thread, I made the distinction between civilians being killed as a result of an action going on in their vicinity, and actually targeting populations in order to effect a revolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Carpet bombing Dresden was demoralizing to Germany.

    It almost certainly hastened the end of the war, saving thousands of lives.

    It was controversial, but the Allies decided not to charge themselves with war crimes after WWII.
    The Allies were hoping for the people to rise up, take government and capitulate. The Allies were halted in their advance through France, and decided to try and break through via the Netherlands (Operation Market Garden), and this strategy failed as well. The allies were losing vast numbers of men and ordnance, and public opinion wanted an end to the war. If the domestic population in enemy territory can be induced to revolt, then the enemy has to divert resources to address the uprising. The fire bombing of Dresden was both a tactical manoeuvre (the diversion of costly resources etc.), as well as being designed to deplete morale.

    But, it didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    The Allies were hoping for the people to rise up, take government and capitulate. The Allies were halted in their advance through France, and decided to try and break through via the Netherlands (Operation Market Garden), and this strategy failed as well. The allies were losing vast numbers of men and ordnance, and public opinion wanted an end to the war. If the domestic population in enemy territory can be induced to revolt, then the enemy has to divert resources to address the uprising. The fire bombing of Dresden was both a tactical manoeuvre (the diversion of costly resources etc.), as well as being designed to deplete morale.

    But, it didn't work.
    Dead is dead.....but dying can be different. The whole of humanity agreed, after WWI, that chemical or germ warfare was such an abomination, they would never tolerate its use again without recriminations.

    Not too sure where nuclear bombs fit into this paradigm. Most killed by the A-bombs in 1946 died instantly, but those who did not suffered the miseries of the damned.

    Both nuclear bombs and Agent Orange cause horrendous chromosome damage to the living and to their children. And possibly, to.tgeir grandchildren. Not to mention, they poison the air, etc. beyond hope of restoration.

    No nation which is signed to the Geneva convention now should have napalm or Sarin or small pox bombs, but the U.S. absolutely does.

    MOST nations also agree to submit to the World Court, where they can be tried for war crimes.

    But not the U.S. The specter of every former POTUS behind bars in some European jail is not a welcome idea to Americans.

    We're better at pointing out another nation's war crimes than in confessing our own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Not too many American civilians in the ME. Our soldiers stationed there do not take their families along.

    Even our state department employees rarely take their families.
    Not quite right.

    LOTS of Americans live and work in the Middle East.

    Israel 80,000
    Saudi Arabia 36,000
    Turkey 20,000
    United Arab Emirates 16,000
    Libya 10,000
    Egypt 4,000
    Kuwait 4,000
    Qatar 3,000
    Jordan 2,000
    Bahrain 1,000
    Lebanon 1,000

    That is quite a few Americans.

    Info from xpatnation.com November 2015.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Reading the thread, I made the distinction between civilians being killed as a result of an action going on in their vicinity, and actually targeting populations in order to effect a revolt.
    Some countries try to avoid civilian casualties.

    Some countries and terror organizations...not so much.

    But civilians ALWAYS die in war.

    Whether intentionally targeted or not, they ALWAYS die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Not quite right.

    LOTS of Americans live and work in the Middle East.

    Israel 80,000
    Saudi Arabia 36,000
    Turkey 20,000
    United Arab Emirates 16,000
    Libya 10,000
    Egypt 4,000
    Kuwait 4,000
    Qatar 3,000
    Jordan 2,000
    Bahrain 1,000
    Lebanon 1,000

    That is quite a few Americans.

    Info from xpatnation.com November 2015.
    No shit! I wonder WTF are they all doing there?

    Are they all physicists or something?

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