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    US Forces Using War Crimes Weapons In Syria




    Iraq claimed credit for videos earlier this week showing the use of white phosphorus munitions in densely populated parts of the Old City in Mosul, but their use is becoming even more widespread, with new reports suggesting that the US is also using such shells in both Iraq and Syria.

    Though white phosphorus shells are not uncommon in the military, and often used as smokescreens, the high temperature at which it burns, and the toxic chemicals emitted makes them wholly unsuitable for populated areas, and their use in any densely populated area or as an incendiary are widely considered war crimes.

    In the cases where images are emerging, they are definitely in densely populated areas, with both Mosul and Raqqa apparently facing the use of white phosphorus. The US would neither confirm nor deny the use, though officials did insist that if they were using them, it was in keeping with their ongoing efforts to limit the number of civilians they killed.

    That assurance is less and less valuable, as US airstrikes killing soaring numbers of civilians in Mosul and Raqqa at any rate. Rights groups are warning that the use of the shells in populated areas is an undue risk, and they are seeking more information on the context in which they are being deployed.

    The increasingly secretive Pentagon is doubtless not going to comply with that.

    By Jason Ditz / Republished with permission / AntiWar.com / Report a typo
    US Forces Now Using White Phosphorus in Populated Areas of Syria, Iraq

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    White phosphorus 'burns to the bone'

    It causes skin to melt away from the bone and can break down a victim's jawbone, but white phosphorus - known in Vietnam as Willie Pete - is still used by sections of the world's military.

    Similar to Napalm, the chemical substance is used in shells and grenades, igniting spontaneously at around 30C to produce an intense heat and thick pillars of smoke.

    Weapons experts warn that when used as an incendiary, it can result in painful chemical burns - injuries which can often prove fatal.

    Further problems are caused because the substance can stick to clothing or on the skin and continues to burn unchecked as particles are exposed to air.

    Witness accounts of combat in Fallujah, where a significant civilian population were living, claim the injured affected by phosphorus suffered horrendous burns.

    It is feared there was widespread use of the weapon, not just to target insurgent positions but in raids on houses and buildings.

    Experts at US military information service GlobalSecurity.org claim skin injuries caused by the substance are often "deep and painful".

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    The US military is firing these weapons at CIVILIANS???

    That is a fucking war crime.

    Just as NAPALM was, used on civilians.

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    US based Monsanto is the sole producer of white phosphorous.

    The Monsanto Company is far from just a seed and pesticide corporation: it also has a long history of being involved with chemical weapons, as anyone who’s read about the terrifying history of Agent Orange in Vietnam knows.

    Monsanto has long sought to deny accusations and disassociate itself with its history of Agent Orange involvement, but the truth is undeniable. Now, redacted U.S. Army documents have surfaced linking Monsanto to another horrific chemical weapon of war: white phosphorus, which has been used against people in the Gaza Strip (most recently), El Salvador, Lebanon, and other countries including in Vietnam during the war.

    White phosphorous is a chemical-based weapon that is capable of “sticking” to skin, and can burn through many types of surfaces causing horrific injuries to all who come in contact with it; it’s characterized by large clouds of toxic smoke as seen above. It is officially (and unfortunately) still not recognized as a chemical weapon, but it is considered an incendiary weapon, one that causes fires widespread collateral damage where it is dropped. That makes it internationally banned for use in civilian areas, and yet that’s exactly what has happened in the Gaza Strip which is currently under an occupation and has suffered terrifying injuries and infrastructure damage.

    According to the documents, Monsanto provided both the Israeli and U.S. militaries with white phosphorous as early as 2009. The documents were recently published by the website Current Events Inquiry and show that Monsanto provided Israel with 180,000 pounds of white phosphorous which was used in Gaza on Palestinians in 2008 and 2009. The site linked to the U.S. Federal Business Opportunities website where the documents are hosted.
    U.S. Army Documents Reveal: Monsanto Linked to Horrific Weapons Dropped on Civilian Populations | March Against Monsanto

    This fucking company made Agent Orange, has fought to keep the DNA-damaging pesticide Round Up legal for use in the US; oppresses American and European farmers who resists its GMO....etc.,etc.,etc.

    Fucking corporate psychopaths. Why doesn't the US government step into them?

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    Does it bother you that we fire bombed entire cities in WWII to win the war?

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    In Vietnam we used a weapon called an M79 grenade launcher and it would fire a number of different rounds meant for specific purposes. One of those was what we called Willy-Peter or white phosphorus. It is a very nasty substance. It will burn intensely into whatever it makes contact with and it will continue to burn until there is nothing left to destroy. It had specific uses to reveal hidden weapons or to clear an area but its use as a personal weapon on humans is atrocious. It's like napalm on steroids and napalm was eventually found to be in violation of Geneva convention. I don't know the current status of Willy-Peter but it should not be used on people. If the intent is to kill, bullets will accomplish that and more swiftly and without the cruel nature of chemical agents. We shouldn't take the moral high ground on Syria if we use Willy-Peter on human beings.



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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    In Vietnam we used a weapon called an M79 grenade launcher and it would fire a number of different rounds meant for specific purposes. One of those was what we called Willy-Peter or white phosphorus. It is a very nasty substance. It will burn intensely into whatever it makes contact with and it will continue to burn until there is nothing left to destroy. It had specific uses to reveal hidden weapons or to clear an area but its use as a personal weapon on humans is atrocious. It's like napalm on steroids and napalm was eventually found to be in violation of Geneva convention. I don't know the current status of Willy-Peter but it should not be used on people. If the intent is to kill, bullets will accomplish that and more swiftly and without the cruel nature of chemical agents. We shouldn't take the moral high ground on Syria if we use Willy-Peter on human beings.
    War tends to bring out the worst in some people.

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    Warcrimes? how about mines, how about bayonets, how about nuclear weapons? It's all about killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Does it bother you that we fire bombed entire cities in WWII to win the war?
    No. Not in this context.

    Not comparing these hideous anti-human devices to the nuclear bomb, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGuy View Post
    Warcrimes? how about mines, how about bayonets, how about nuclear weapons? It's all about killing.
    No, it isn't. The Geneva convention classes gas, nerve, chemical weapons as war crimes. In the 1980's, there was added Agent Orange, napalm and white phosphorus.

    They are too indiscriminate and cause too much agony before death.
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    Nobody here ever studied the Geneva convention and the rules of engagement for war?

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