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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    Guilty of just what? It certainly isn't "collusion with Russians."

    Chris Matthews: Trump-Russia collusion theory 'came apart' with Comey testimony
    Those events will take on a different complexion, once Mueller looks into Trump's financial dealings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Those events will take on a different complexion, once Mueller looks into Trump's financial dealings.
    I was given to understand Mueller is investigating either collusion with Russians and or covering up the collusion which Comey said didn't happen. Anything beyond that looks too much like a coup for my liking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I wish everyone would stop this impeachment talk. Unless there is even the possibility of having the votes in the House, there can be no impeachment. The impeachment process is political, not criminal. Besides that, it is stupid to talk about if the Democrats don't have a minimum of 218 votes in the House and 67 votes in the Senate.

    But, I also know that the D's and their allies, MSM, love to fill the air with impeachment talk.

    Those of us in flyover country are not as stupid as the MSM and Liberals think we are.
    AS you stated , it's political. Democrats have stated since he was elected, they want to take him down, run interference on his administration, cause as much hell in the hopes of making gains at the mid term election.
    It's all politics. Democrats have no more concern for a just government but power. How else would they cover for hillary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    I think the Democrats should be worried about not losing seats in the upcoming 2018 election.

    If all they talk about is how Trump should be impeached or about Russia, that will not happen. I guarantee it.

    They have absolutely no solutions to the problems facing everyday Americans, and they know it.

    Deflections and strawmen, tactics we see employed here every day.
    THey want to destroy Trump.......PERIOD. It's not about corruption (they ran hillary) or a just government, it's taking back power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    I was given to understand Mueller is investigating either collusion with Russians and or covering up the collusion which Comey said didn't happen. Anything beyond that looks too much like a coup for my liking.
    I've never heard of one elected offical saying that it was Trump colluding with the Russians..for now. But Flynn and Manafort - both who worked under Trump, are facing criminal investigations.

    So I don't know why Comey's "revelation" about Trump is such a big deal.

    Agree that impeachment talk at this point is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Neither do the Republicans, and that does not stop them from getting elected. (Of course, they got state legislatures to gerrymander the Congressional districts in their favor, so that it may be nearly impossible to wrest the House from them irrespective of political winds, but nobody pays much attention to that.)
    Gerrymandering cuts both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    THey want to destroy Trump.......PERIOD. It's not about corruption (they ran hillary) or a just government, it's taking back power.
    So we as a country should not be very concerned that Russia meddled in our election process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    So we as a country should not be very concerned that Russia meddled in our election process?
    Russia meddles in everyone's business just like we do. Why are you suddenly astonished? Because it's Trump. Russia didn't cast any illegal votes. Who supplied Wikileaks still isn't proven. Wiki has released the goods on a lot of issues from a lot of sources.


    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...t-control.html
    I'm a Democrat (and ex-CIA) but the spies plotting against Trump are out of control

    One small problem. The intelligence officer quoted above was actually Aldrich Ames, a CIA traitor whose crime of treason in the 1980s and 1990s resulted in the compromise of more than 100 assets. Many were tortured and executed as a result.
    Ames’ flawed logic is eerily similar to that of his present-day colleagues who are engaged in a shadow war with their commander in chief. They, too, have decided that their superior judgment is more important than following the law.
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    But liberal activists have since shown little desire to cooperate with Trump on anything. Since Election Day, #NotMyPresident has been used in 3 million tweets and #Resistance or #TheResistance has been used in 1.3 million, according to Twitter. Facebook declined requests to conduct the same analysis as Twitter, but a cursory search showed at least hundreds of thousands of users using the same hashtags.

    Even former MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann has reemerged to preach defiance with GQ’s “The Resistance,” a sparse chair-and-desk online series with Olbermann calling for relentless organized opposition to “president-elect pussy grabber.” Olbermann’s series already has over 22.5 million views since Election Day across all platforms including YouTube, Facebook, and its own website, according to GQ.

    https://news.vice.com/story/some-dem...ake-down-trump
    Axelrod said there is danger in Democrats creating a “cycle of mutually assured destruction” with Republicans in Congress. “With every passing round of defiance, you are eroding people’s faith in institutions, in government, and politics,” he said.

    Many Democrats, including Axelrod, think this is ultimately a losing strategy for a party that puts forward a government-centric platform. “The more voters hate government, the more Republicans benefit,” Jesse Ferguson, Hillary Clinton’s deputy national press secretary, recently wrote in USA Today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    I was given to understand Mueller is investigating either collusion with Russians and or covering up the collusion which Comey said didn't happen. Anything beyond that looks too much like a coup for my liking.
    No way can Mueller evaluate the questioned conduct without knowing how money and Trump's personal fortune motivated the players.

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