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    The Outer Banks has been changing forever and Tangier is no different. Unless the government wants to build dikes all around it.....



    Pretty sure this administration's going to build a wall, just not around Tangier Island.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    What's your idea to "fix it"?
    There is no fix. Americans need to start moving off islands and the coasts, now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    The Outer Banks has been changing forever and Tangier is no different. Unless the government wants to build dikes all around it.....



    Pretty sure this administration's going to build a wall, just not around Tangier Island.
    Erosion could, conceivably, be forestalled by engineering.

    Rising sea levels and temperatures, no. More frequent and more violent storms, no. Higher average temperatures, rising air pollution levels, no.

    New Orleans should not have been rebuilt. Miami will liquify in less than 10 years.

    The Great Lakes and big rivers of the U.S. will rise, and most likely, brackish water will make its way inland.

    The most valuable real estate in the U.S. is primary coastal. The gap between rich and poor will widen, as the rich shovel as much of their losses as possible into the poor.
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    Why don't they tell us how much the sea level rose?

    15 feet a year of encroachment is a pretty high number.

    It's funny that the sea level is rising enough to cover this island but the rest of the east coast is still the same don't ya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Erosion could, conceivably, be forestalled by engineering.

    Rising sea levels and temperatures, no. More frequent and more violent storms, no. Higher average temperatures, rising air pollution levels, no.

    New Orleans should not have been rebuilt. Miami will liquify in less than 10 years.

    The Great Lakes and big rivers of the U.S. will rise, and most likely, brackish water will make its way inland.

    The most valuable real estate in the U.S. is primary coastal. The gap between rich and poor will widen, as the rich shovel as much of their losses as possible into the poor.
    Why are the Great Lakes going to rise?

    Is there permanent ice in them I wasn't aware of?

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    Obviously those that think there is nothing that can be done about it have never heard of a country called The Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Why don't they tell us how much the sea level rose?

    15 feet a year of encroachment is a pretty high number.

    It's funny that the sea level is rising enough to cover this island but the rest of the east coast is still the same don't ya think?
    The amount of land lost to sea levels rising is variable. It depends on the topography of the island, the impact of other factors, and the placement of the island on the planet. The impact is not uniform worldwide.
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    The issue here isn't the sea level. The issue is erosion due to the pounding that the island takes. Water is able to cut through mountains and wash away land. The solution that has been purposed isn't to raise the land or lower the sea. It's to build a jetty to block the harsh crashing waves from hitting the shoreline. Climate change has nothing to do with this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    *Facepalm,*

    This is why we can't have nice things. Those Americans now most directly impacted by climate change are complicit in the attempt to deny it is happening. There is some very odd psychology at work here.

    Your thoughts?
    Just more trump-pocrisy...it's only real when it affects HIS property.

    Donald Trump acknowledges climate change ? at his golf course - POLITICO
    Donald Trump says he is “not a big believer in global warming.” He has called it “a total hoax,” “bullshit” and “pseudoscience.”

    But he is also trying to build a sea wall designed to protect one of his golf courses from “global warming and its effects.”

    The New York billionaire is applying for permission to erect a coastal protection works to prevent erosion at his seaside golf resort, Trump International Golf Links & Hotel Ireland, in County Clare.
    A permit application for the wall, filed by Trump International Golf Links Ireland and reviewed by POLITICO, explicitly cites global warming and its consequences — increased erosion due to rising sea levels and extreme weather this century — as a chief justification for building the structure.

    The zoning application raises further questions about how the billionaire developer would confront a risk he has publicly minimized but that has been identified as a defining challenge of this era by world leaders, global industry and the American military. His public disavowal of climate science at the same time he moves to secure his own holdings against the effects of climate change also illustrates the conflict between his political rhetoric and the realities of running a business with seaside assets in the 21st century.
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    How about this, from 2014...

    Oil Industry Denies Climate Change But Demands Taxpayer Money For Climate Change Protection

    Just this week, a Delaware oil refining company applied for taxpayer funding to protect its refinery from rising sea levels brought on by anthropogenic climate change. The company, a subsidiary of PBF applied for public funding to ameliorate damage to its tar sand refinery it claims is under extreme threat from ocean storm surges, rising tides, and increasingly powerful storms. Despite the oil industry driving climate change over the past fifty years, it expects taxpayers to build natural and artificial barriers to protect its infrastructure sitting on the waterfront from climate change.

    The Sierra Club wrote, “Severe storms are eroding the shoreline and affecting the business of an oil refinery, Delaware City Refining Company, that is threatened by increasing extreme weather. In other words, climate disruption is hitting the doorstep of its source and it is seeking taxpayer-funded shoreline protections due to tidal encroachment – which is one way of saying sea level rise.” But the oil industry is a leading funding mechanism for climate change denial that includes exactly what the Delaware refinery is claiming threatens their profits; rising sea levels.

    On its application submitted with the Coastal Zone Management Act for taxpayer protection, the company wrote that “the extent of the shoreline erosion has reached a point where facility infrastructure is at risk. The extent of tidal encroachment is obvious, and a review of historical photography suggests that the rate of shoreline erosion is increasing.” The refinery claims that the only solution is building natural sand dunes and a protective ring of buoys “that has the resilience to deal with Sea Level Rise (SLR) for at least 50 years.” The company’s only interest is taxpayer funding to protect its profits and ignores the simple fact that buoys might dissipate wave energy from tides, boats, and storms, but they will not, in any scenario, do anything to reduce the rising sea levels it admits is accelerating rapidly.
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