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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    A local, small city is on track to spend $100,000 this year on the life-saving drug Narcon, used to quickly reverse the effects of an opioid overdose.

    This councilman proposes that, in the case of anyone who has overdosed twice before, the dispatcher should refuse to send out an ambulance.

    I understand his fears, because this epidemic is a threat to the financial stability of every city in Ohio. But I think this approach is the wrong one. It amounts to an execution, performed by a dispatcher on a cold record that is too likely to be wrong. It changes the dispatcher's job into one so stressful, few people could bear to carry it out.

    Worse, it blames the addict. IMO, the first line of attack must be towards doctors that script oxycotin to non-terminal patients. The federal government must withdraw oxycotin from the market, and states should sue the manufacturer for the damages it has caused.

    What do you think?
    Ms. Madeline,

    The state is not responsible for the criminal acts of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Why don't you blame the addict?

    They are the one doing it to themselves.

    I don't stick a needle in my arm every day.
    I don't blame the addict because (1) I want a solution, not to apportion blame and (2) clearly, there are environmental factors in play that have led to the explosive growth in opioid addiction, especially in Ohio.

    It's like the crack epidemic of the 1980's. Something changed in the environment to create that horror show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Note: the story in the Op was broadcast on the 11 pm news here. I will edit tomorrow to add a link, as one becomes available.
    Middleton or Middletown? JD Vance hometown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Middleton or Middletown? JD Vance hometown.
    Middletown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    All schedule 2 drugs are equally addictive.

    OxyContin is just more prevalent because it is prescribed far more than the others at the moment.

    Hehe, you don't even know the name of it, its not Oxycotin.
    No, this one drug is uniquely addictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Middletown.
    Thanks,because I know some of the Council think they are tough. So does the Sheriff in both Middletown and Lebanon. Think they are tough guys.

    This is the really bad one that is killing so many. Fentanyl. Deadly.

    Look who is flooding the country.

    https://www.statnews.com/2016/04/05/...aced-to-china/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No, this one drug is uniquely addictive.
    That comes from Doctors and Pharmacists, they are cracking down on both, but Fentanyl is deadly..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    That comes from Doctors and Pharmacists, they are cracking down on both, but Fentanyl is deadly..
    Nobody is prescribed fentanyl for home use, are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    That's correct.

    Some alcoholics have no desire to be cured.

    Some obese people have no desire to lose weight.

    Some homeless people want to remain homeless.

    Some people have no desire to be helped/cured.
    The moronic proposal is not to send ER treatment to a person that has two prior overdoses. Not only is moronic as I've stated...it's an unlawful proposal under the EMTALA as well as a freaking law suit ready to happen.

    There is no way to correctly ascertain what the person is experiencing until he is checked over by a clinician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGuy View Post
    I'm not for punishing sick people but people who go to the hospital for no other reason than to just get pain medication are playing the system. I would agree a better mental health system is a good idea though doctors seem to be prescribing valium for just about everything already.
    A Judge in Fla. started sending people to the Clinic instead of prison. Said they need help and made them reopen the Clinic.

    Alternative Sentencing Rehab ? Alternative to Jail or Incarceration
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