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    Middleton Councilman Proposes No More Narcon

    A local, small city is on track to spend $100,000 this year on the life-saving drug Narcon, used to quickly reverse the effects of an opioid overdose.

    This councilman proposes that, in the case of anyone who has overdosed twice before, the dispatcher should refuse to send out an ambulance.

    I understand his fears, because this epidemic is a threat to the financial stability of every city in Ohio. But I think this approach is the wrong one. It amounts to an execution, performed by a dispatcher on a cold record that is too likely to be wrong. It changes the dispatcher's job into one so stressful, few people could bear to carry it out.

    Worse, it blames the addict. IMO, the first line of attack must be towards doctors that script oxycotin to non-terminal patients. The federal government must withdraw oxycotin from the market, and states should sue the manufacturer for the damages it has caused.

    What do you think?
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    Note: the story in the Op was broadcast on the 11 pm news here. I will edit tomorrow to add a link, as one becomes available.
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    Very slippery slope ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Very slippery slope ...
    Hopefully, this councilman is more interested in provoking a serious conversation than anything else. The impact of this epidemic here is so grave, it is impossible to exaggerate and no area of the state is immune.

    We have not enough nicu beds for addicted newborns, not enough social workers or foster homes for older children of addicts, children in the custody of addicts routinely overdosing themselves (among the other horrors they endure), not enough room or staff at the medical examiner's offices to process overdose deaths, and on and on.

    It's literally killing us all, and the will to stop it still has not coalesced in D.C.
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    "This councilman proposes that, in the case of anyone who has overdosed twice before, the dispatcher should refuse to send out an ambulance."

    That sounds over the top, when the ship is sinking you don't start smashing holes in the lifeboats...

    You are correct, it must start at the other end where addiction begins, it is and always will be a medical problem more than a social one.

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    My best friend from childhood's first son died of an overdose, just a few months after that Phillip Seymour Hoffman, I have to wonder if it was the same extra potent stuff.

    I'm glad I've never done that stuff, I've never injected drugs and would have made a very poor junkie.

    And this all came as a surprise for me, I thought we as a society got over heroin back in the 70s....

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    I agree it's not a good idea but I would add that many addicts utilize medical services to supplement their addictions and have no desire for a cure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGuy View Post
    I agree it's not a good idea but I would add that many addicts utilize medical services to supplement their addictions and have no desire for a cure.
    That's correct.

    Some alcoholics have no desire to be cured.

    Some obese people have no desire to lose weight.

    Some homeless people want to remain homeless.

    Some people have no desire to be helped/cured.
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    Not much you can do about it.

    Doctors have to provide pain management and if it isn't Oxy it will be something else that will provide the same effects.

    Any narcotic will get you hooked if you have a tendency towards that.

    What you are suggesting is forcing people to live in pain and is that any worse than the pain from addiction?

    I don't know.

    There are plenty of people that take Oxy without serious problems.

    And if you think Oxy is bad you should try taking morphine pills lol, those are what are called the "Big Guns".

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Very slippery slope ...
    Well.. if it was EASY we'd have (in theory) solved it decades ago. The very idea that a 911 dispatcher has to make such a choice is just UNCIVILISED. Well... Maybe that's our Trend now.
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