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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    LBJ passed the Civil Rights law!
    Because he was forced to by the times.

    LBJ was one of the biggest racists in the nation, I would post some quotes but I've been banned for doing that before.

    The Civil Rights movement by that time had become so powerful he had no choice.

    Remember that both he and Kennedy were against the 57' Civil Rights Act. Kennedy voted against it actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Yeah it was Bund I was referring to.

    He was the American leader of the movement.

    At the time many people saw Hitler as a savior of the economy for what he was doing and thought that was the way to go.

    They saw the government taking care of its people which was the draw for the left.

    Conservatives had different economic ideas so didn't really buy into it.

    It wasn't about hate or race it was about the Great Depression.
    I think the Bund were predominately pro-Nazi:

    In the years before the outbreak of World War II, people of German ancestry living abroad were encouraged to form citizens groups to both extol “German virtues,” around the world, and to lobby for causes helpful to Nazi Party goals. In the United States, the Amerikadeutscher Volksbund, or German American Bund, was formed in 1936 as “an organization of patriotic Americans of German stock,” operating about 20 youth and training camps, and eventually growing to a membership in the tens of thousands among 70 regional divisions across the country.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...n-bund/529185/

    What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Nazism actually had a big following in America at one point.

    Mostly pulling from democrats by the way.



    Back then however it wasn't so much about hate it was about nationalism.

    That's why FDR had such a hard time getting support for the war, his own party was blocking him forcing him to enact the lend-lease program.
    I found where you got that picture, and underneath that picture the caption reads:

    A crowd of approximately 20,000 attends a German American Bund Rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939. At center is a large portrait of George Washington, claimed as an icon by the Bund, who called him "the first Fascist", claiming Washington "knew democracy could not work."

    Washington was 'the first fascist?'

    That is Rob Larrikin territory.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...n-bund/529185/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    I think the Bund were predominately pro-Nazi:

    In the years before the outbreak of World War II, people of German ancestry living abroad were encouraged to form citizens groups to both extol “German virtues,” around the world, and to lobby for causes helpful to Nazi Party goals. In the United States, the Amerikadeutscher Volksbund, or German American Bund, was formed in 1936 as “an organization of patriotic Americans of German stock,” operating about 20 youth and training camps, and eventually growing to a membership in the tens of thousands among 70 regional divisions across the country.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...n-bund/529185/

    What do you think?
    Its no secret that the Nazi's were behind the movement and I believe Heinz Spanknöbel actually met with Hitler.

    It was definitely planned out.

    Germany knew they would have to take us on eventually so I imagine they wanted as much support here as they could get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    I found where you got that picture, and underneath that picture the caption reads:

    A crowd of approximately 20,000 attends a German American Bund Rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939. At center is a large portrait of George Washington, claimed as an icon by the Bund, who called him "the first Fascist", claiming Washington "knew democracy could not work."

    Washington was 'the first fascist?'

    That is Rob Larrikin territory.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...n-bund/529185/
    Well of course it was stupid but a lot of people bought into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Well of course it was stupid but a lot of people bought into it.
    Yeah... some still do. Speaking of which:



    Stormtroopers subdue a heckler on the platform at New York’s Madison Square Garden, February 20, 1939. Police who rescued and later arrested the man, whose clothing was torn from him in the struggle, identified him as Isadore Greenbaum, 26, a hotel worker. Fritz Kuhn, National Bund leader, stands on the rostrum, his back turned as he regards the struggle which interrupted his Denunciation of Jews during the Bund rally.

    That looks suspiciously like a Trump rally.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...n-bund/529185/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    I think the Bund were predominately pro-Nazi:

    In the years before the outbreak of World War II, people of German ancestry living abroad were encouraged to form citizens groups to both extol “German virtues,” around the world, and to lobby for causes helpful to Nazi Party goals. In the United States, the Amerikadeutscher Volksbund, or German American Bund, was formed in 1936 as “an organization of patriotic Americans of German stock,” operating about 20 youth and training camps, and eventually growing to a membership in the tens of thousands among 70 regional divisions across the country.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...n-bund/529185/

    What do you think?
    I know that my Grandparents were in a small community of successful German immigrants in Southern Ohio. They came here to get away! Not one of them would have ever ever endorsed the Nazi's! They came here to get away from repression and enjoyed living here.

    My Grandfather built houses and had a farm. He raised 8 kids,who all went on to owning businesses,or had good jobs.
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    I think y'all are overly obsessed. There is nothing different than less than a year ago besides hysteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Democrats weren't Nazi's.

    I'm saying that most of the people who went into that movement came from the left, not the right.

    I can probably find a link if you like but its just history.

    In fact they thought it might affect FDR's re-election, kind of like how Ross Perot torpedoed Bush.

    However, it ended abruptly and was short lived.

    They never got enough support to actually affect anything.
    Who gives a shit about who did what 80 yrs ago? Today the nazis are conservatives, every last one of them. If you think there was a single liberal democrat in VA marching and chanting "jews will not replace us" you are an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Ahhhhh, the parties flipped excuse.

    You realize that by saying that you are telling us that FDR was a conservative.
    How the fuck you come to that conclusion god only knows.

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