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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    With all due respect, I'm not sure the family of Heather Heyer or any others of those killed in the past by "Failure....at attempted reputation as a scarey, scarey dude", because of the color of their skin or because they were counter protesting, the ideology that promotes hatred of others for who they love or the color of their skin, etc. (regardless of the exact same actions as in the 30's and 40's), would agree with you.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchi..._United_States

    Religious bias (Based on Table 1.)
    Hate crimes motivated by religious bias accounted for 1,354 offenses reported by law enforcement. A breakdown of the bias motivation of religious-biased offenses showed:

    51.3 percent were anti-Jewish.
    22.2 percent were anti-Islamic (Muslim).
    4.4 percent were anti-Catholic.
    4.2 percent were anti-multiple religions, group.
    3.7 percent were Anti-Eastern Orthodox (Russian, Greek, Other).
    3.5 percent were anti-Protestant.
    1.3 percent were anti-Other Christian.
    0.6 percent were Anti-Mormon
    0.4 percent (6 offenses) were Anti-Sikh.
    0.4 percent (5 offenses) were Anti-Hindu.
    0.1 percent (2 offenses) were anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc.
    0.1 percent (1 offense) were Anti-Buddhist.
    0.1 percent (1 offense) were Anti-Jehovah’s Witness.
    7.7 percent were anti-other (unspecified) religion.


    https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/...offenses_final
    I do not deny that hate crimes, including murders have occurred. Or minimize the suffering of the victims' families.

    What I question is whether these alt-right labels have any thought whatsoever behind them.

    They appear to my eye to mean exactly fuck all, other than those claiming them are fuckwhits.

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    I'm not sure I get the concern for "the destiny of whites". What is the concern since there is no definitive white culture. I know lots and lots of whites and each one comes from slightly different cultures. This is an honest question. I'm not being facetious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    How are you determining which are the planks of a Nazi Party in 21st Century America?

    This is what I am struggling with, first. Most of those ideas you listed are just banal socialism, which a person could find embedded in the law in CANADA. That does not make most Canadians NAZIS, FFS.

    If the political philosophy is viable AT ALL at the present time, in this country, I think it must be fundamentally based on race hatred.....but that only cycles back to the KKK.
    The current 21st Century nazis have a platform. You can read their views on their website.

    I didn't bother reading it as their leadership has done enough to make me not want to associate with them. So, I admit I'm a little bit prejudiced against them, so will refrain from any discriminatory content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I'm not sure I get the concern for "the destiny of whites". What is the concern since there is no definitive white culture. I know lots and lots of whites and each one comes from slightly different cultures. This is an honest question. I'm not being facetious.
    What I cannot understand is, why don't these people blithering on about white supremacy get themselves tested to ascertain whether they actually ARE white? Seems like a OBVIOUS first step to me.

    Do they even agree on who is white and who isn't? Does "European" include Greece, Turkey or all of Eastern Europe? It has not meant that to the John Birch Society since WWII.

    "Racial. purity" is an asisnine idea that has no scientific basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Which one of those planks of the NAZI platform DOES Pelosi oppose?

    Nationalized Healthcare
    Government Run Schools
    Revision and cleansing of History
    Minimum wage laws
    Maximum wage laws
    Progressive Taxes for individuals
    Progressive Taxes for Corporations
    Maximum Salaries
    Government to share in Corporate Profits
    Government run Retirement.
    Limiting private ownership of Firearms to the Elite
    Well, revision of history is one of your central beliefs. Are you against Medicare, all public schools, and a minimum wage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Because he was forced to by the times.

    LBJ was one of the biggest racists in the nation, I would post some quotes but I've been banned for doing that before.

    The Civil Rights movement by that time had become so powerful he had no choice.

    Remember that both he and Kennedy were against the 57' Civil Rights Act. Kennedy voted against it actually.
    You are the biggest liar on the site, bar none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I'm not sure I get the concern for "the destiny of whites". What is the concern since there is no definitive white culture. I know lots and lots of whites and each one comes from slightly different cultures. This is an honest question. I'm not being facetious.
    Just because you do not want to acknowledge a white culture, it does exist - especially for those who are a part of it.

    For example, many very well educated people believe that America is the New Jerusalem of the Bible. It is what our founding fathers believed. And, if you were to look at the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution - they were all products of people that fit the description of White, Anglo - Saxon, Scandinavian, Germanic, Teutonic and kindred peoples (aka the white race.)

    As the founding race of this nation, they also have a destiny. Our forefathers believed this nation to be that "shining city on a hill." Ronald Reagan, on the eve of his 1980 election said:

    "I have quoted John Winthrop's words more than once on the campaign trail this year—for I believe that Americans in 1980 are every bit as committed to that vision of a shining "city on a hill," as were those long ago settlers ...

    These visitors to that city on the Potomac do not come as white or black, red or yellow; they are not Jews or Christians; conservatives or liberals; or Democrats or Republicans. They are Americans awed by what has gone before, proud of what for them is still… a shining city on a hill
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    That reference is to Winthrop's 1630 sermon using Matthew 5 : 14 (shining city on a hill) as a foundation for his historic sermon.

    http://www.john-uebersax.com/pdf/Joh...ty%20v1.01.pdf

    I get a bit defensive when people tell me we do not exist by virtue of some misguided notions of social revisionism. As a matter of fact, I'm not allowed to say a lot regarding this subject. You'd have to PM me for specifics.

    If you are serious, I'd say that if you read pages 407 - 421 of the Dred Scott v Sanford case, you could see that America was founded on certain principles that included a white culture:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/60/393

    Today, it is very unpopular, but we have a tendency to apply a double standard to the whites as compared to other races / cultures.

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    You are the biggest liar on the site, bar none.
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