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    Maybe I should feel bad for posting this,but it was quite an experience to see Mitch McConnel humiliated.

    May I be excused for that? If not frankly,etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Exactly! I have no idea how long it will last, but for now smart Republicans and Democrats are teaming up.

    I give full credit to Collins,Mukowsky and the old curmudgeon himself, John McCain he saved the ACA. Sherrod Brown returned at midnight from his Mother's funeral to cast the deciding vote on the ACA! I remember that night so well!
    except that a lot of moderate Republican's are leaving. Dent just announced his retirement today. Then, there's Bernie Sanders causing all the trouble he is on the Democrat side. I haven't quite decided whether or not I support his efforts on healthcare. Kamala Harris signed on. She was the first. But, Feistein doesn't support it. I trust Feistein. But , Harris I haven't quite made up my mind on. The "healthcare for all" bill is going no where. But, Sanders continues to advance an agenda that's pushing the Democrat party further and further to the left.

    See where I'm going here?

    Trump meeting with Schumer and Pelosi may not ultimately end up being the blessing it's might appear. At least, not as long as Bernie is advancing his own agenda.

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    WH: Trump has done more for bipartisanship in 8 days than Obama in 8 years | TheHill

    All true. And yes, it is a good thing.

    Possibly a great thing.

    1964 and the Civil Rights Acts are blessings on this country that we would never have had, without bipartisanship and moderation.

    Your thoughts?
    I have to disagree with you there Madeline (if you are agreeing with Huckabee Sanders). I remember very vividly that it was Obama wanting to sit down with the other side that caused him A LOT of flack from the more extreme members of his own party. I also remember that Hillary Clinton was also criticized by the more extreme members of the party and the far left, for not being far enough left. I would also suggest that Trump is likely NOT doing it in the light of Plato's virtues, but because he wants to piss off republicans for not kow towing to him. Most Americans just want to move forward and if it takes Trump being vindictive and angry at his own party for not obeying his commands, then so be it. It may change tomorrow, as with so many things related to Trump, but for now, it's great that he is reaching across the aisle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Sanders is full of BS. But then again anything out of her mouth lately is BS.

    In the ACA bill alone there were over 100 GOP amendments.

    Obama tried to reach across the aisle several times in his first term.
    Not sure it matters. Focusing on the present, Trump has shown an unexpected and wonderful willingness to "make a deal" with Democrats, such as the revival of DACA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    First off, its complete nonsense

    Secondly, Obama couldn't get bipartisan support becuase republicans are assholes, they won't work with a dem president, period. NO matter what. Obama tried, even ACA was similar to republican plan of the past and 100s of their amendments added

    Democrats are not obstructionist assholes that refuse to vote on something they may support just because who is president,
    Obama could barely get the democrats on board for the ACA, hence his backroom deals.

    Do you remember those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    funny, this looks a lot like Obama sitting down with both sides in congress.
    Yes, he did.

    But I didn't expect Trump to do so, and I am delighted the GOP's fascists are crying in their beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Not sure it matters. Focusing on the present, Trump has shown an unexpected and wonderful willingness to "make a deal" with Democrats, such as the revival of DACA.
    Let's see if the democrats reciprocate.

    I imagine that if they do they will get more accomplished under Trump than they ever did under Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Not sure it matters. Focusing on the present, Trump has shown an unexpected and wonderful willingness to "make a deal" with Democrats, such as the revival of DACA.
    actually, it's not unexpected at all if you examine the positions he taken over the years. Trump has never really had any sustained political ideology. Hell, he even donated to Bill Clinton's campaign and praised Hillary Clinton as a great Sec of State. Trump is a political party of one. Donald Trump. If he think it benefits him personally that's what he'll support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    actually, it's not unexpected at all if you examine the positions he taken over the years. Trump has never really had any sustained political ideology. Hell, he even donated to Bill Clinton's campaigned and praised Hillary Clinton as a great Sec of State. Trump is a political party of one. Donald Trump. If he think it benefits him personally that's what he'll support.
    Pretty much.

    Trump is about Trump, he has no loyalty to anything except his agenda.

    I think he would sell his mother to get it done.

    He is worried about legacy and doing what he said he would and he will use whatever he has to in order to get that done.

    That can be good or bad depending on your view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Pretty much.

    Trump is about Trump, he has no loyalty to anything except his agenda.

    I think he would sell his mother to get it done.

    He is worried about legacy and doing what he said he would and he will use whatever he has to in order to get that done.

    That can be good or bad depending on your view.
    if by "pretty much" you mean he'll put his own personal agenda before anything else. That includes Schumer and Pelosi , his party, the presidency, or even the country itself.

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