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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Not what I am talking about! for crying out loud! READ! instead of reacting!

    The strategy, the timing, JESUS HOPPING CHRIST! IS WRONG!

    IT'S STUPID!

    Stupid to introduce it now, ACA is being attacked by the Republicans, ONE VOTE, one vote away from repealing it and all a game for some orange tumor sitting in the white house!

    Are you getting it now? it drives a chasm into the Democratic party, what do you want Madeline? a Total Dictatorship? because that's what's coming with the GOP!

    Christ! I WISH Sanders would LEARN how to fight a battle! he simply doesn't know how! I love the guy, but he's goddamn stupid when it comes to strategic political warfare!

    FUCK!
    This shit again?

    Strategically, this is the BEST time to introduce that bill (of the last 10 years). Trump is far more likely to sign it, if it passes, than Obama ever was.

    Trump has been pretty consistent in his support for universal health care, across time.



    And whether it passes or not, there is no excuse for any real liberal to be OPPOSING universal health care, or for trying to convince Americans it is no longer important.

    NOBODY wants to "save Obamacare" unless they have the interests of the private health insurance industry at heart, because it is a savage attack on the health care access of ordinary Americans.

    Watch what they do, not what they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Not what I am talking about! for crying out loud! READ! instead of reacting!

    The strategy, the timing, JESUS HOPPING CHRIST! IS WRONG!

    IT'S STUPID!

    Stupid to introduce it now, ACA is being attacked by the Republicans, ONE VOTE, one vote away from repealing it and all a game for some orange tumor sitting in the white house!

    Are you getting it now? it drives a chasm into the Democratic party, what do you want Madeline? a Total Dictatorship? because that's what's coming with the GOP!

    Christ! I WISH Sanders would LEARN how to fight a battle! he simply doesn't know how! I love the guy, but he's goddamn stupid when it comes to strategic political warfare!

    FUCK!
    Frustrating. That is the problem when they don't even know what is at stake in the real world for Obamacare as they focus on the impossible at this time. That is how we got Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    This shit again?

    Strategically, this is the BEST time to introduce that bill (of the last 10 years). Trump is far more likely to sign it, if it passes, than Obama ever was.

    Trump has been pretty consistent in his support for universal health care, across time.



    And whether it passes or not, there is no excuse for any real liberal to be OPPOSING universal health care, or for trying to convince Americans it is no longer important.

    NOBODY wants to "save Obamacare" unless they have the interests of the private health insurance industry at heart, because it is a savage attack on the health care access of ordinary Americans.

    Watch what they do, not what they say.
    Man, that is a foolish way to think! Trump will never sign that! he's not strong enough to do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    This shit again?

    Strategically, this is the BEST time to introduce that bill (of the last 10 years). Trump is far more likely to sign it, if it passes, than Obama ever was.

    Trump has been pretty consistent in his support for universal health care, across time.



    And whether it passes or not, there is no excuse for any real liberal to be OPPOSING universal health care, or for trying to convince Americans it is no longer important.

    NOBODY wants to "save Obamacare" unless they have the interests of the private health insurance industry at heart, because it is a savage attack on the health care access of ordinary Americans.

    Watch what they do, not what they say.
    You don't understand what PACE is saying. You just don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Frustrating. That is the problem when they don't even know what is at stake in the real world for Obamacare as they focus on the impossible at this time. That is how we got Trump.
    Goddamn! this is the moral equivalent of PETA dumping blood on people at the fashion show for wearing fur! sure I hate that. but that's not GOING TO CHANGE THE MIND OF FOLKS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    These three will defend Obamacare to the death, they supported it so much they have no choice no matter how much its failing.
    These three will fight to "save Obamacare" for two reasons.

    To prevent Americans from having universal health care, thereby depriving the private health insurance industry and others from their "pigs at the trough" profit-seeking.

    And, to maintain the EXORBITANT corporate welfare payments now flowing to their "friends of government".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    So if Obamacare is a barrier to UHC you think we should repeal it and have 20-30 million lose health insurance?
    No, I think we should repeal it and pass universal health care.

    IOW, we should nationalize the health insurance industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    These three will defend Obamacare to the death, they supported it so much they have no choice no matter how much its failing.
    Don't encourage her. Tell her the truth about passing Universal Healthcare at this time. Maybe she'll listen to you and understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    They still don't have any idea how government functions. The division of government makes pipedreams like Universal in a republican House and Senate and a presidency a fool's dream. I know Bernie wants to feed false hope to his few but for crap sake are they ever going to wake up?

    Sure, sure, sure everyone wants Universal Healthcare but then they vote like they are brainless and insure we don't get it by killing the democratic candidate and sitting the Republican. It is just a dumbed down time.
    What a good little follower you are!

    Unfortunately, you are following the wrong leaders, if the interests of your family are important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Don't encourage her. Tell her the truth about passing Universal Healthcare at this time. Maybe she'll listen to you and understand.
    Do you hear yourself?

    Passing universal health care now is a TERRIBLE idea?

    Reagan was not as bold about his covetousness and disdain for ordinary Americans as you are, Min.

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