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    Schumer, Pelosi & Clinton Attack Universal Health Care



    Hillary Clinton has taken off the "straitjacket" she says she was forced into during the 2016 Democratic primary.
    "Forced"? By whom?

    In her new campaign memoir, the former presidential candidate wasn't exactly subtle about her disapproval of Sen. Bernie Sanders' campaign against her for the Democratic presidential nomination, writing that Sanders, a Vermont independent, caused her "lasting damage," deepened divisions among progressives, and "pav[ed] the way for then candidate Donald Trump's 'Crooked Hillary' campaign."
    Because speaking up for the 99% is so "terrible".

    While many, including Sanders, dismissed Clinton's criticism as an irritating re-hashing of a now-irrelevant battle, the divisions between Clinton's centrist wing of the Democratic Party and Sanders' more progressive (or more populist) supporters could have implications for Democrats in the 2018 midterms and even the 2020 presidential election.

    'Purity tests'

    The day after Clinton released her book, Sanders unveiled his much-anticipated single-payer healthcare plan. Short on details and ambitious in its vision, the proposal won the endorsement of 15 top Democrats, many of them likely 2020 presidential candidates.

    But other party leaders, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, distanced themselves from the plan.

    "We want to move the issue forward," Schumer said, adding that "there are are many different bills out there," including "many good ones" that he and other Democrats are examining.

    Pelosi warned that support for a single-payer system shouldn't become a "litmus test" for Democrats.


    Whose side are these three REALLY on? Yours...or the US Chamber of Commerce's?

    In an interview on the liberal podcast "Pod Save America," Clinton said that while she supports the proposal as a "political statement," she doubts it's much more than a pipe dream at this point.

    She also criticized the plan's lack of particulars in an interview with Vox.

    "I don't know what the particulars are," Clinton told Vox. "As you might remember, during the campaign he introduced a single-payer bill every year he was in Congress and when somebody finally read it, he couldn't explain it and couldn't really tell people how much it was going to cost."
    NO ONE can be a liberal and fight to defeat the interests of the 99%.

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...er-b/23211853/

    Who needs Republicans when so-called Democrats are perfectly willing to try to kill such a fundamental progressive policy initiative as universal health care?

    No one can serve two masters. Clinton, Schumer and Pelosi have chosen to serve the US Chamber of Commerce. It is past time for the Democratic rank and file to decide: why are you in this party? Why aren't you a Republican?

    If you are a Democrat because you want to further the interests of ordinary Americans, WAKE UP. You have some house cleaning to do.

    These three are NOT aligned with progressive policies. They are NOT aligned with the interests of the 99%.

    Throw these bums OUT.

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    You cannot simply look at labels. PLENTY of prominent Democrats are just as dedicated to the 0.01%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post


    You cannot simply look at labels. PLENTY of prominent Democrats are just as dedicated to the 0.01%.
    Bernie is a FOOL for introducing this now! the Republicans are ONE VOTE AWAY from repealing ACA,,, wrong time to make this a platform!

    First save ACA! Jesus Christ! the purists are always fucking up the soup!

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    These three will defend Obamacare to the death, they supported it so much they have no choice no matter how much its failing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Bernie is a FOOL for introducing this now! the Republicans are ONE VOTE AWAY from repealing ACA,,, wrong time to make this a platform!

    First save ACA! Jesus Christ! the purists are always fucking up the soup!
    You are mistaken. Obamacare is not "universal health care light". It's nothing but a BARRIER to universal health care; a smoke and mirrors operation meant to persuade Americans they don't really need universal health care. Well, there is another purpose to Obamacare: massive corporate welfare payments. But it's real purpose was always to derail the fight for universal health care.....from its first iteration, as Hillarycare, back in 1992.

    Are you a liberal, PACE? It's not a trick question.

    If you are, that is supposed to mean you SUPPORT progressive policies. That you think the 99% should share in the blessings of government.

    Do you? Because Schumer, Pelosi and Clinton do NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    You are mistaken. Obamacare is not "universal health care light". It's nothing but a BARRIER to universal health care; a smoke and mirrors operation meant to persuade Americans they don't really need universal health care. Well, there is another purpose to Obamacare: massive corporate welfare payments. But it's real purpose was alawys to derail the fight for universal health care.....from its first iteration, as Hillarycare, back in 1992.

    Are you a liberal, PACE? It's not a trick question.

    If you are, that is supposed to mean you SUPPORT progressive policies. That you think the 99% should share in the blessings of government.

    Do you? Because Schumer, Pelosi and Clinton do NOT.

    Not what I am talking about! for crying out loud! READ! instead of reacting!

    The strategy, the timing, JESUS HOPPING CHRIST! IS WRONG!

    IT'S STUPID!

    Stupid to introduce it now, ACA is being attacked by the Republicans, ONE VOTE, one vote away from repealing it and all a game for some orange tumor sitting in the white house!

    Are you getting it now? it drives a chasm into the Democratic party, what do you want Madeline? a Total Dictatorship? because that's what's coming with the GOP!

    Christ! I WISH Sanders would LEARN how to fight a battle! he simply doesn't know how! I love the guy, but he's goddamn stupid when it comes to strategic political warfare!

    FUCK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    You are mistaken. Obamacare is not "universal health care light". It's nothing but a BARRIER to universal health care; a smoke and mirrors operation meant to persuade Americans they don't really need universal health care. Well, there is another purpose to Obamacare: massive corporate welfare payments. But it's real purpose was always to derail the fight for universal health care.....from its first iteration, as Hillarycare, back in 1992.

    Are you a liberal, PACE? It's not a trick question.

    If you are, that is supposed to mean you SUPPORT progressive policies. That you think the 99% should share in the blessings of government.

    Do you? Because Schumer, Pelosi and Clinton do NOT.

    So if Obamacare is a barrier to UHC you think we should repeal it and have 20-30 million lose health insurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Bernie is a FOOL for introducing this now! the Republicans are ONE VOTE AWAY from repealing ACA,,, wrong time to make this a platform!

    First save ACA! Jesus Christ! the purists are always fucking up the soup!
    They still don't have any idea how government functions. The division of government makes pipedreams like Universal in a republican House and Senate and a presidency a fool's dream. I know Bernie wants to feed false hope to his few but for crap sake are they ever going to wake up?

    Sure, sure, sure everyone wants Universal Healthcare but then they vote like they are brainless and insure we don't get it by killing the democratic candidate and sitting the Republican. It is just a dumbed down time.
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