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    Quote Originally Posted by allegoricalfact View Post
    The Rogue State (US foreign Policy) - who else?
    Well, I am not persuaded. The international 0.01% profits enormously from American imperialism. I do not think Putin could or would stop it, if he somehow gained control over the US.

    And frankly, Russian imperialism under Putin is also a concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegoricalfact View Post
    Go and see Boris Yeltsin if that is your beef. And watch Adam Curtis


    The Century of Self and Bitter Lake too - he isn't perfect but he helps to make sense of it all.
    Isn't Yeltsin dead?

    Yup...as of 2007.

    Boris Yeltsin - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

    Why is he your favorite Russian president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    That is incorrect, a Harris Poll at the time had 53% of the people calling for Nixon's impeachment; his approval rating was 24% at the time, Goldwater and Rhodes had to tell him that they didn't have the votes to stop the impeachment, he resigned that night.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac..._Richard_Nixon
    Yes, true. But he was polling at over 60% in June 1972, when the break in occurred.

    Nixon had won reelection in 1972 by a landslide and began his second term with a lofty 68% Gallup Poll approval rating in January 1973. But the Watergate scandal — which started with an effort to bug the Democratic National Committee office at the Watergate Hotel and subsequent efforts to cover it up — quickly took a heavy toll on those ratings, especially when coupled with a ramp-up in public concerns about inflation. By April, a resounding 83% of the American public had heard or read about Watergate, as the president accepted the resignations of his top aides John Ehrlichman and H.R. Haldeman. And in turn, Nixon’s approval ratings fell to 48%.
    How the Watergate crisis eroded public support for Richard Nixon | Pew Research Center



    It's hard to say how any of this data applies to Trump. I had said he cannot survive if his approval rating falls below 30%, but it has and it seems to have no impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Well, I am not persuaded. The international 0.01% profits enormously from American imperialism. I do not think Putin could or would stop it, if he somehow gained control over the US.

    And frankly, Russian imperialism under Putin is also a concern.
    You are avoiding



    I disagree with you over US aggression - and Putin is no danger to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Isn't Yeltsin dead?

    Yup...as of 2007.

    Boris Yeltsin - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

    Why is he your favorite Russian president?
    Yeltsin in his drunkenness is to blame for all of the problems that Putin's genius has tried to keep in check.

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    As for Trump and the boys? Theirs is TREASON.
    After Obomba you talk of treason ------------ you are all brainwashed robots.

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    I know you don't really believe that. Only a complete moron could believe that garbage.
    Only a brainwashed robot would even consider that the US's Orwellian, 'never ending war' was not somewhat curbed by Putin's genius. Oh the US's genocide of brown people won't halt but it's areas of slaughter are lessened ----------- not enough but that is up to the US public - no one else can halt the slaughter. Putin can't do your job for you ...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegoricalfact View Post
    You are avoiding



    I disagree with you over US aggression - and Putin is no danger to you.
    OBVIOUSLY, Putin has no plans to invade the US.

    He may have such plans as to Eastern Europe or the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegoricalfact View Post
    Only a brainwashed robot would even consider that the US's Orwellian, 'never ending war' was not somewhat curbed by Putin's genius. Oh the US's genocide of brown people won't halt but it's areas of slaughter are lessened ----------- not enough but that is up to the US public - no one else can halt the slaughter. Putin can't do your job for you ...........
    Bullshit, Madam. Complete bullshit. For a whole array of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Well, I am not persuaded. The international 0.01% profits enormously from American imperialism. I do not think Putin could or would stop it, if he somehow gained control over the US.

    And frankly, Russian imperialism under Putin is also a concern.
    Why would Putin not stop American imperialism when his goal is to replace it with Russian imperialism?

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