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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Would we be happy for the CIA to ignore social media?
    Well, to be honest it doesn't really matter. Computer science predicted the BEAST and here it is.

    A central computer that processes and profiles every individual, to be fed into the state and drawn from at will.

    The scary part of this read was the implication that our personal information (needed to create the profile) would be stolen from us by the state.

    Never did we realize we'd simply give it to them, at our will. They wouldn't even have to ask for it.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=the+...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinCheeseNip View Post
    No, I don't need to read more about Edward, and the public cares more than ever about integrity in the press, and what is the fine print (manipulation of the facts) behind each Facebook / Twitter sensationalism news feed headline.

    It's clear Snowden was too young to have such high security clearances, and moved up in the ranks too quickly to be real. I believe he is not who he claims to be.

    "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" author ex CIA John Perkins took a $500,000 bribe from the agency to not publish his book. Later, when the money ran out, he went back on his word.

    Some activists / whistleblowers and agency types are dishonorable, bring discredit to journalisms and public servants high honorable, ethical, moral standards.

    Naomi Klein, for example, took big money from Soros affiliated NGOs to not question 9/11. Torture whistleblower in Uzbekistan, (a U.S. military ally, and base for U.S. troops in the war in Afghanistan) former Ambassador Craig Murray took 315,000 pounds sterling and regularly patronized brothels, and paid hookers on the job as British ambassador.(Telegraph uk) Also knighted for his charity work music star Sting accepted millions to perform for the Uzbekistan regime, widely known for torture, and making children slaves work 70 hours a week in cotton mills,(the New Yorker). Noam Chomsky accepts millions from NGOs to not question 9/11, and NGO beneficiary Howard Zinn publicly ridiculed protestors in a video on youtube. They are paid establishment revisionists.


    So many activists/whistlelowers have highly questionable ethical challenges:
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    Read more on the subject of "non profit" journalism and NGO activist corruption here:


    FROM THE NON-PROFIT INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WITH LOVE. THE ART OF ANNIHILATION.

    "In the decades since these publications were first published, a new form of psywar has emerged in the form of false hope. With unlimited funding and organizational support from foundations like Ford, Rockefeller, Gates and Soros, U.S. Government propaganda now has a vast new army of non-profits that, along with corporate media and academia, serve as both a third wing of mass consciousness and a fifth column for destabilization campaigns worldwide.

    As Cory Morningstar captures The Simulacrum in her multi-part series on the non-profit industrial complex, domesticating the populace is a fait accompli, and the only question remaining is what will happen if and when capitalist activism is seen for what it is. By following the money from aristocratic derivatives to embodiments of false hope like Avaaz, MoveOn, and Change, Morningstar steps through the looking glass to expose how NGOs have become a key tool of global dominance using social media as a means of social manipulation.

    When the smoke generated by phony progressives clears, all that is left is an industrial wasteland of false hope and real threats. When the betrayals of NGOs like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are known, we can finally begin to exercise our responsibilities. Until then, programs like Democracy Now remain little more than adult versions of Sesame Street for the toy Che brigades."

    From the NonProfit Industrial Complex with Love

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    Avaaz Goes to Myanmar

    September 8, 2017

    by Cory Morningstar

    "NGO’s in places like Sudan, Somalia, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Albania, and Zimbabwe have become the preferred venue for Western aid – both humanitarian and financial – development financing, and emergency relief. According to the Red Cross, more money goes through NGO’s than through the World Bank. Their iron grip on food, medicine, and funds rendered them an alternative government – sometimes as venal and graft-stricken as the one they replace.”

    Avaaz Goes to Myanmar | Wrong Kind of Green
    Wow. What a post.

    One of your statements was in your title and my response was confirming that. If not steering you in the general direction to find out for yourself. I see you're aware of that information, however. Great.

    That's all. But great post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinCheeseNip View Post
    Yeah, but do you trust a CIA guy to tell you the whole truth?
    Oh no, we don't. And we're certain you DON"T have an agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinCheeseNip View Post
    Well -

    Edward Snowden signed an oath to secrecy when he was a intelligence agent, and ambassador Craig Murray got paid handsomely and violated his honor, and oath to secrecy, his country, and people still regard them as heroes, right ?



    Did Mark Zuckerberg over at Facebook violate his agreement with the public to protect their privacy rights, instead of handing all your usage data over to the CIA ?
    I like you. This could turn out to be an interesting conversation.

    Edward Snowden is not a hero but he did the right thing. I don't see how it really changed things as he'd hoped, but he did the right thing. I'm certain he is very disappointed in the outcome.
    The problem with the outcome not turning out as he'd hoped is that now, the only people who might try to resist it would be underground.

    Mark Zuckerberg's actions since starting advertising on Facebook is all we need to understand about him. Not only is he handing over your data to the NSA and other agencies, willingly, he is also selling that information to advertising.

    How does a company like Facebook launch an initial IPO at $42 a share? A fucking website... Excuse my language but that doesn't even approach the red I see when I think about this.
    How does he get that value? Easy. He has something and openly selling it that nobody else has. Everyone's information.

    Twitter, a very similar 'website' opened at $26, largely a lot of that value came from the trend of information companies opening high. High based on the first share being sold for up to 11% more than it's IPO value.

    This is what installing the BEAST or whatever you want to call it, looks like.

    And everyone was like yaaaaay!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    Oh no, we don't. And we're certain you DON"T have an agenda.
    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinCheeseNip View Post
    Last months big FACEBOOK HOT-BUTTON ISSUE


    was completely STAGED ....



    astroturf protests, media manipulation

    fake news and the Elites control of the press ...


    at approx 20 mins. this 1/2 hour clip

    outlines what controlled assets got paid,


    and who did what in Charlottesville


    Program Information - 9-11 Wake-Up Call: AUGUST 23, 2017 - ORCHESTRATED PROTESTS |A-Infos Radio Project



    YES - I HAVE AN AGENDA ...



    Not to be bulls___ed by billionaires phony progressive astroturf groups run by George Soros and Bill Gated community.

    Listened to who paid for that Robert E. Lee riot -

    at approx 20 mins into the 30 min. show, you

    won't be disappointed ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    Wow. What a post.

    One of your statements was in your title and my response was confirming that. If not steering you in the general direction to find out for yourself. I see you're aware of that information, however. Great.

    That's all. But great post.



    The anti- Trump protests are now exposed as a litany of Soros front groups whose agenda is not peaceful or productive, but Democrat Elitist prevarication, public disruption, and unethical mob mentality provacation lacking a real message.
    .................................................

    Now it is USA Today Lying to us that the Anti-Trump Protests are Spontaneous

    Now it is USA Today Lying to us that the Anti-Trump Protests are Spontaneous - PaulCraigRoberts.org

    .........

    BREAKING: Soros Caught Red-Handed Funding Anti-Trump Protests, Paying Protesters $15/hr

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sor...mp-protesters/

    ..........

    Trump Inauguration Day Protests Planned By Stephen Lendman / 11-19-16

    "Inauguration day and other anti-Trump protests are planned, orchestrated and implemented by elements not wanting their involvement revealed - Machiavellian dark forces infamous for dirty tricks, tactics serving their interests"

    Trump Inauguration Day Protests Planned
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    I like you. This could turn out to be an interesting conversation.

    Edward Snowden is not a hero but he did the right thing. I don't see how it really changed things as he'd hoped, but he did the right thing. I'm certain he is very disappointed in the outcome.
    The problem with the outcome not turning out as he'd hoped is that now, the only people who might try to resist it would be underground.

    Mark Zuckerberg's actions since starting advertising on Facebook is all we need to understand about him. Not only is he handing over your data to the NSA and other agencies, willingly, he is also selling that information to advertising.

    How does a company like Facebook launch an initial IPO at $42 a share? A fucking website... Excuse my language but that doesn't even approach the red I see when I think about this.
    How does he get that value? Easy. He has something and openly selling it that nobody else has. Everyone's information.

    Twitter, a very similar 'website' opened at $26, largely a lot of that value came from the trend of information companies opening high. High based on the first share being sold for up to 11% more than it's IPO value.

    This is what installing the BEAST or whatever you want to call it, looks like.

    And everyone was like yaaaaay!!


    More on the process used by Foundations, fake scholars, and New World Order capitalists to create astroturf movements and protest groups ...

    By Raśl Capote / Chavez Vive Magazine

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    They came with an infinite amount of money, because the source of the money, obviously, we found out over time from whence it came. For example, there was USAID, which was the big provider, the overall contractor of this budget, which channeled the money via NGOs, many of them invented just for Cuba. They were NGOs that didn’t exist, created solely for this type of job in Cuba, and we’re talking thousands and thousands of dollars. They weren’t working on small budgets. To give you an example, at one time, they offered me ten thousand dollars, just to include elements of anti-Cuba propaganda, in the novel I was writing."

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    "They provide scholarships to students to big North American universities, to train them as leaders, with all expenses paid. They pay their costs, they provide complete scholarships. We’re talking 2004-5 here. It was very obvious. Then, those leaders return to university at some time. They’re students. They go to end their careers. Those leaders, when they end their student careers, go on to various jobs, different possibilities, as engineers, as degree-holders in different sectors of Cuban society, but there are others who go on constantly preparing leaders within the university. One of the most important missions of the university leaders was to occupy the leadership of the principal youth organizations of the university. In the case of Cuba, we’re talking about the Union of Communist Youth, and the University Student Federation. That is, it was not to create parallel groups at that time, but to become the leaders of the organizations already existing in Cuba. Also, to form a group of leaders in the strategies of the “soft” coup. That is, training people for the opportune moment to start the famous “color revolutions” or “non-violent wars”, which, as you well know, have nothing to do with non-violence."

    "Professors are very easy. Identify university professors discontented with the institution, frustrated people, because they considered that the institution did not guarantee them anything, or didn’t recognize their merits. If they were older, even better. They didn’t specify. Look for older persons, so you can pick them. If you send a scholarship plan, or you send it and, first crack, they receive an invitation to participate in a great international congress of a certain science, they will be eternally grateful to you, because you were the one who discovered their talent, which has never been recognized by the university. Then that man you sent to study abroad, if you’re from his university, and participating in a big event, and publish his works, and constructing him a curriculum. When that person returns to Cuba, he goes back with a tremendous curriculum, because he has participated in a scientific event of the first order, has passed courses from big universities, and his curriculum reaches to the roof, then the influence he could have in the university will be greater, because he could be recognized as a leading figure in his specialty, even though in practice the man could be an ignoramus."

    https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/10533
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    No offense Blue but I'm going to use your post. This is an example of how much people actually care about this subject. Simply don't plan terrorism...

    Exactly my point.

    Again no offense. But we have to care more.

    Right.

    American news readers have enough trouble getting straight reporting from their own media which is always mixed with partisanship from Politico, or politicized by the Post (like the retracted 'fake news' fiasco), and following the most biased election coverage in history in 2016, where the newspapers and TV universally chose to get Hillary into the WH, every Left wing TV- radio outlet already drew a line in the sand from having to ridicule on late night comedy, to supposed 'serious' cable and network news coverage to elicit a hatred of anyone with an (R) attached to their name, in order to get Americans to vote a straight (D) ticket, even though the commercialized American media refused to cover the Democrats invasion of at least 6 sovereign nations in the preceding 8 years with any real truth telling, and by not revealing who had started the conflagrations.

    The line in the sand drawn by Democrat and Clintonite supporters, was to brand Trump a 'racist' before all the illegal war crime facts regarding Pres. Obama were ever released by TV -radio. From PBS to NPR, to Democracy Now, and Pacifica Radio, and former Air America hosts, Progressive Voices, whitewashed the high crimes and misdemeanors of the sitting (D) President.

    When electing the new (D) President failed, the same Left outlets chanted 'racist', 'fascist' and 'Nazi' even as some roared prior to the election discrediting themselves completely years before election day. The press ignored the fact that (R) and (D) parties bi-partisan support and jointly agreed on most of the major war issues. And Americans noticed the desperate Dems trying to overturn the election they didn't vote in, due to massive war lies and corruption.

    So now, with Hollywood and (D) representatives in media and government regarded as nothing but pro-war, overpaid propagandists, the people just watch and listen aghast marveling at the bizarre spectacle, for another deflate-gate super game, starring the well known patriot liars and cheaters, only this contest is not football, its the battle over the dead carcass of the Democratic Party.

    Keep plugging away at the silly Trump schtick Alec Baldwin, the world won't be watching. And tell your Hollywood celebrity friends Colbert, Daily Show, NBC, etc we'll be boycotting their Democrat Party drivel as well when Moore tries to sell his next flick.. And your other buddies Alec, making war propaganda movies like Tom Hanks, Bruce Willis, Denzel and Sly tell them to hang up their combat fatigues, and put away their guns because we know the lies of the American Sniper told, and Hurt Locker went too far - your U.S. Government propaganda killed the cash cow and insulted the intelligence of American audiences.

    I imagine the phone calls to organize Trump protests to sound something like ...


    "Hello Hollywood ? Its the FORD FOUNDATION. We have all the internet website astroturf Democrats crying 'racist ' about Trump. Can you send us a few hundred rent a mob geeks for inauguration day with pre-printed signs and we'll rent some celebs to make it look real? The check is in the mail, thanks."

    "What?"

    "Of course the Democrat Party is still relevant!"

    And of course, the Democrats like Tom Feelys ICH, Democracy Now, Common Dreams, Huffington Post, are all falling in line with Mockingbird press outfits like CNN, NYT, and NBC to damage and character assassinate Trump before he is even given a chance to GOVERN. This Democrat Establishment and Foundation owned blogospheres veneer of legitimacy is gone, and so is its objectiviy. Democrat Party Establishment dittoheads have their ducks all in a row painting the guy a racist, making the most bogus slime tactics and sleazy reporting flushing ethics in reporting right down the toilet - the 'Prog. Left' credibilty is at about sub zero along with the Mockingbird press.

    Got all your ducks in a liitle row have we Democrats - fake news, fake outrage, fake Facebook, fake protest ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    In order to avoid government scrutiny and propaganda you have to avoid technology all together. That bridge was built and crossed a loooooooooong time ago.
    On the 'opposition' side: we'd hope to the window smashing, car over-turning and fires marches go away. Although Barret Brown, and Jeremy Hammond were reportedly far more militant, wanting to destroy facilities, using more aggressive destruction against U.S. Govmnt if (Wired, Rolling Stone, and other outlets are accurate.) I'm philosophically opposed to Assange or hackers, we cannot break the law and simultaneously require the U.S. Govmnt to uphold it, or not be corrupt. Hacking is not necessary in order to produce good journalism. Even though Rolling Stone reported Barret Brown was set up by a U.S. Govmnt informant, giving him an access code,and Jeremy Hammond merely had militant ideals and methods (alledgedly) his war crimes protests should be commuted or pardoned, as with Assange. Put hacker journalism to bed for good, it was a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    Um... Edward Snowden gave us a literal flow chart of how all this works. Yes of course its a tool of agencies.

    This why I hate Russia Today -

    The people there are shadow CORPORATISTS posing as prog. types with sly arguments and subtle planted lines ... DESIGNED to VECTOR and lead the anti-war, anti-establishment counter culture LEFT ... HOPELESSLY...

    right BACK TO THE CORRUPTED 2 PARTY ... RIGHT VERSUS LEFT - DEMOCRAT VERSUS GOP FALSE CONSTRCUCT DIALECTIC

    where WE DON'T WANT TO BE-

    where all the problems stem from !

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