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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    I honestly do not know how I feel about this breed - and only this breed. I certainly will never call for a ban, however - but I also wouldn't bring one into my home either.

    I have a few anecdotal horror stories about the breed from friends.
    I also have a story of my own from my own childhood in which I'm still bearing the scars. And that wasn't even a pit.

    Basically at that point its risk management.
    Is there a potential? Yes or no.. plan, don't risk.

    With children, I wouldn't want to risk them being hurt.
    That's where I am. Before I had kids, I might've considered it. After... no, there are too many other breeds that don't even cause the slightest worry.

    My sis adopted a pitbull she found with a broken leg. Okay, she adopted a pit bull with a broken leg that she found. She didn't find it with a broken leg. That'd be stupid. How would you use a broken leg to find a fucking dog? That's just embarrassing. Geez.

    What was I talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    O, yes. We still have dog fighting here, and pitbull are popular with drug dealers.

    The problem is, they are so much more powerful than ordinary dogs. It's much less likely a child will survive an attack.

    I don't "blame the dog", but I don't want them in private homes here, either.
    Do the police not hold the dog in custody until they determine whether or not it will be put down? I don't get how these dogs are getting out of police custody and into shelters.

    We have dog fighting too, but the biggest impact from it is people stealing small dogs as bait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    The problem with Pitt Bulls is not the owners, but the breed.
    If you teach them to fight they will. Fighting dogs are trained to do that and it is a process of pitting them together and basically forcing them to fight. The use of bait dogs is how you begin. Some people will go to a shelter, pick out a small dog and throw the dog into the pit and force the pit to kill it. You could train any terrier to do that if you wanted. I disagree, for every aggressive one you have more nice ones..Pits who are raised like children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post


    Source - 2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org

    Note - this is only looking at FATAL injuries. Non-fatal attacks aren't included.
    When I first looked at that chart my reaction was: "Holy shit, the most fatal dog bites come from Labradors?" The blue line for pit bulls is so long I subconsciously thought it was the header stripe above the chart.

    I'm just embarrassing myself all over the place tonight.

    Later.
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    I don't do pure breeds. Never have. Best two dogs I've ever had were a German Shepherd / Border Collie mix and an Australian Shepherd mix we got from the Humane Society. Best behaved dogs ever. Love that shepherd mindset especially when the kids were little. They go out and play in the yard and the kids don't even realize that the dogs are herding them from one side to the other and back again. Pretty amazing watching the natural instinct. Easiest dogs I've ever trained too. So smart and eager to please.

    Smart and eager to please... wish this post was about my kids.

    I'm on a roll tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    I watch Pit Bulls and Parolees a lot and the breed seems to be unfairly judged because of bad treatment by asshole owners. I sometimes wonder if the people shouldn't be put to sleep instead of the dogs.
    A collie can exert about 20 lbs of pressure with its jaws. A pitbull can exert about 200 lbs.

    It really is like living next door to a lion.

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    This debate surfaced in Australia some years ago after several fatal attacks upon children. The state of Tasmania banned the importation of the American Pitbull, as the breed is considered 'unstable'.
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    Pitbull owners are usually... not my favorite peeps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    This debate surfaced in Australia some years ago after several fatal attacks upon children. The state of Tasmania banned the importation of the American Pitbull, as the breed is considered 'unstable'.
    What is the metric that could find otherwise? There are people in Ohio who literally own wild predators, poisonous snakes, etc. Most are kept in hellacious conditions. Their owners passionately claim they need them. In one infamous case here, a man, fearing the state was about to seize his animals, released dozens of lions and bears and tigers, etc. before suiciding.

    Do we look at this and conclude, dangerous animals should be allowed in private homes? Or do we instead say, wow, we have some mentally ill people here who are incorporating animals into their delusions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    What is the metric that could find otherwise? There are people in Ohio who literally own wild predators, poisonous snakes, etc. Most are kept in hellacious conditions. Their owners passionately claim they need them. In one infamous case here, a man, fearing the state was about to seize his animals, released dozens of lions and bears and tigers, etc. before suiciding.

    Do we look at this and conclude, dangerous animals should be allowed in private homes? Or do we instead say, wow, we have some mentally ill people here who are incorporating animals into their delusions?
    I think it is absurd to own dangerous animals as pets and it should be illegal. Ownership of such animals endangers the community and I feel that is unacceptable and negates individual rights. Owning Black Mambas and Taipans is ridiculous especially if one has children, let alone big cats and bears.

    What next? Let little Milly have a Funnel Web Spider?
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