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    Americans Dumping Dangerous Pitbulls On Canada



    It’s a fact that pit bulls, with their powerful jaws, can kill and maim. Google ‘pit bull attacks’ if you dare. But are pit bulls born bad or do humans make them that way? Therein lies an emotional – sometimes vicious - debate. On one side, traumatized families and public safety advocates. On the other, a powerful group of lobbyists who say pit bulls are the most misunderstood breed of dogs and are no more dangerous than any other pets.

    Canada has a patchwork of laws and regulations – Ontario has a ban, Quebec is considering one. But pro-pit bull activists oppose any “breed-specific legislation.” In the United States, the lobby has even succeeded in getting many states to ban any pit bull bans.

    Mark Kelley speaks to leading advocates for pit bulls, families of pit bull attack victims, shelter workers and doctors as he probes the sometimes disturbing debate over what to do about the pit bull.
    Pit Bulls Unleashed: Should They Be Banned? - the fifth estate - CBC News

    Wonderful, wonderful journalism. If you aren't familiar with this Canadian series, you should be. They work hard to eliminate sensationalism from their stories, and I feel more confident in their research.

    Anyway, the take-away here is that "no kill" animal shelters are one of several techniques used in the US to rehome pitbulls that have already attacked other animals or even humans. THOUSANDS are airlifted to Canada and rehomed, without ever warning the new owners, and too often, with tragic results.

    The pitbull advocates are so horrible, they attack the families of people mauled or killed by pitbulls for "giving the breed a bad name".

    I thought we might could use a chance to demonstrate our skills at debate over a topic most of us likely care quite a bit about, and that isn't about Trump.

    So....your thoughts? Banning the breed or no?

    (For my part, I say yes, just as I say my neighbor may not keep a fucking lion in his backyard.)
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    For my money, NOTHING allows humans to parade their neuroses around in public like an issue pertaining to animals.



    But I am very fond of Gage.......LOL.

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    I honestly do not know how I feel about this breed - and only this breed. I certainly will never call for a ban, however - but I also wouldn't bring one into my home either.

    I have a few anecdotal horror stories about the breed from friends.
    I also have a story of my own from my own childhood in which I'm still bearing the scars. And that wasn't even a pit.

    Basically at that point its risk management.
    Is there a potential? Yes or no.. plan, don't risk.

    With children, I wouldn't want to risk them being hurt.
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    I believe it depends where you live in Canada as each state (province) has its own laws on the issue. The province of Ontario bans them altogether and the province of Quebec has introduced a bill to ban them altogether. I believe in the Western Provinces and in the most Eastern Provinces they may allow them but there are towns or cities that have bylaws against it even there. I guess the point of this is adopter beware. I personally would not keep a Pit Bull. I believe they should be neutered and spayed and allowed to live out their days in sancturies. It is one breed I would not be sorry seeing going extinct.
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    Source - 2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org

    Note - this is only looking at FATAL injuries. Non-fatal attacks aren't included.

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    This is disturbing. Alberta does not have a ban on pit bulls, but each city has different rules. Shelters here usually encourage new owners to attend seminars on interacting with reactive dogs, and they will recommend dog training courses from businesses where the shelter can verify that the training methods are humane.

    How Alberta communities deal with vicious dogs varies from the pit bull bans proposed elsewhere - Calgary - CBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    I honestly do not know how I feel about this breed - and only this breed. I certainly will never call for a ban, however - but I also wouldn't bring one into my home either.

    I have a few anecdotal horror stories about the breed from friends.
    I also have a story of my own from my own childhood in which I'm still bearing the scars. And that wasn't even a pit.

    Basically at that point its risk management.
    Is there a potential? Yes or no.. plan, don't risk.

    With children, I wouldn't want to risk them being hurt.
    Very often, the victims are neighbors or visitors. Banning this breed seems to me the only way to remove this terrible risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
    This is disturbing. Alberta does not have a ban on pit bulls, but each city has different rules. Shelters here usually encourage new owners to attend seminars on interacting with reactive dogs, and they will recommend dog training courses from businesses where the shelter can verify that the training methods are humane.

    How Alberta communities deal with vicious dogs varies from the pit bull bans proposed elsewhere - Calgary - CBC News
    Nothing can rehabilitate a dog after it has attacked a human, especially a child.

    IMO, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Nothing can rehabilitate a dog after it has attacked a human, especially a child.

    IMO, anyway.
    I agree. I meant that they recommend this training for everyone adopting a dog, because most animals they adopt out have experienced some form of maltreatment so they can be more reactive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
    I agree. I meant that they recommend this training for everyone adopting a dog, because most animals they adopt out have experienced some form of maltreatment so they can be more reactive.
    Yes, but according to the video in the Op, some Americans deliberately conceal a dog's history of attacking people and send the dogs to Canada for a "second chance". This has had tragic results, and lawsuits about the deception are not progressing well.

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