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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    A plane could be hijacked by Saudis at the instruction of Saudis in response to US military bases in Saudi Arabia, the people responsible could say “Were Saudis and we did this because the US had a military base in our holy land, which is Saudi Arabia” and if the country is bitterly divided politically instead of generally agreeing on common sense truths, a large portion of people might be persuaded by an opportunist government to invade a totally unrelated country for the profit of people in government roles.

    The division of the country would be important because anyone objected would be assumed to be objecting for political reasons, instead of “being an intelligent human being” reasons.

    This success, coupled with failure to HOLD the conquered nation after elections, might inspire Saudis to create a proxy army of religious fanatics called ISIS with identical beliefs, tactics and goals as Saudi Arabia, to attempt to invade and occupy the whole Arab world under the exact same political system as Saudi Arabia. With Saudi money and leadership.

    But a divided nation screaming and shouting about “leftists”, and ignoring legitimate media, wouldn’t notice or care.



    Just an example.
    Guess you haven't noticed the recent divisions in the nation already, none of which have to do with Russia.

    We already scream 'leftist' or 'rwnj', unless you are implying the people saying those were all influenced by Russia.

    Do you honestly think we generally agree on politics currently?

    Maddow and Limbaugh would be getting along if not for Russia?

    Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    I learn from news reports that Russian efforts to send divisive messages through out social media continues unabated since the election. It's been the goal of the Russian state to get Americans to divide up and thus become less powerful and wealthy. This would leave them more free to assert their own power in Europe and Asia.

    Is it not odd that we have posters--often posters who appear quite sophisticated but who provide relatively little evidence to support their positions-- here at PH pushing political and legal agendas that would result in a divided and weaker US?


    Positions like "The Supreme Court can't block states from violating the Federal Constitution" or "Our legal system has been in violation of the Constitution since 1803."
    ...so are you saying that people are incapable of fact-checking? Seriously, the previous administration did a great job of 'dividing' America- why do you think former President Obama was called the 'Divider in Chief'... Russia could not hold a candle to that.
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    These trolls are very accomplished in terms of being able to pass as Americans in writing. I can usually tell when someone isn't a native English speaker in writing, but these people have been very convincing - unlike a lot of the Russian scam artists who send emails claiming that our bank accounts have been locked, please click this link to deal with it, who are fairly obviously not English speakers.
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    Our trolls are far better.

    They speak perfect Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    A plane could be hijacked by Saudis at the instruction of Saudis in response to US military bases in Saudi Arabia, the people responsible could say “Were Saudis and we did this because the US had a military base in our holy land, which is Saudi Arabia” and if the country is bitterly divided politically instead of generally agreeing on common sense truths, a large portion of people might be persuaded by an opportunist government to invade a totally unrelated country for the profit of people in government roles.

    The division of the country would be important because anyone objected would be assumed to be objecting for political reasons, instead of “being an intelligent human being” reasons.

    This success, coupled with failure to HOLD the conquered nation after elections, might inspire Saudis to create a proxy army of religious fanatics called ISIS with identical beliefs, tactics and goals as Saudi Arabia, to attempt to invade and occupy the whole Arab world under the exact same political system as Saudi Arabia. With Saudi money and leadership.

    But a divided nation screaming and shouting about “leftists”, and ignoring legitimate media, wouldn’t notice or care.



    Just an example.
    You went way over his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pureinheart View Post
    ...so are you saying that people are incapable of fact-checking? Seriously, the previous administration did a great job of 'dividing' America- why do you think former President Obama was called the 'Divider in Chief'... Russia could not hold a candle to that.
    He was only called that by fucking racist shitheads that were pissed off we elected a black guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    And seem to be a smashing success.
    The reason for their success is because so many fact and answer. They have succeeded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnbskts View Post
    These trolls are very accomplished in terms of being able to pass as Americans in writing. I can usually tell when someone isn't a native English speaker in writing, but these people have been very convincing - unlike a lot of the Russian scam artists who send emails claiming that our bank accounts have been locked, please click this link to deal with it, who are fairly obviously not English speakers.
    I think the Russians are now hiring natural-born Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    How exactly is dividing us making us less powerful?
    It makes us less able to come to consensus and make decisions. For one thing. When we don't even agree on what problems we may have, we certainly aren't going to do anything to correct them. That assuredly weakens us over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    It makes us less able to come to consensus and make decisions. For one thing. When we don't even agree on what problems we may have, we certainly aren't going to do anything to correct them. That assuredly weakens us over time.
    When have we ever agreed?

    We have two parties in this nation with different ideas.

    Its been that way forever.

    How will Russia make that worse?

    Do you think you or I will ever have the same ideas?

    That has nothing to do with Russia.

    Did the massive division under Obama or the hate towards Bush have anything to do with Russia?

    Are you implying the left would have ever agreed with Sarah Palin if Russia did nothing?

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