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    It's based on my life experience studying social anthropology. It doesn't take much to see who the angry hateful people are.
    I hope you know I was describing attacks against people for, nothing more than wearing a maga hat.

    While the left has been outright attacking, the right wing has been primarily counter attacking.

    So, your experience is pointing you the wrong way. Which would mean that either you are lacking information or are interpreting things wrongly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    The 32% who still support Trump are most likely suffering from a mental illness too. The alt-right is as dangerous to the world as that psycho Trump.

    hmmm, looks like we have a member of the alt-left here. Hello alt-left. It looks like Time Magazine's got your number. I love ya' man.

    Antifa Berkeley: Why the 'Alt-Left' Is a Problem | Time.com

    The “alt-left” designation helps explain the Democrats’ emerging civil war, with extremists assailing centrist liberals, and turning the word “neoliberal” into one of their overused epithets. It exposes the postmodern fanatics: bullies who violate liberal principles by shutting up speakers they dislike; brats who riot in Berkeley, Portland, Oakland and elsewhere when they don’t get their way; hypocrites who denounce their opponents’ unreason and violence yet can’t see their own; and brutes who whip each other into vulgar frenzies on the Internet. The “alt-left” is populated by ideologues who reject the American value of compromise. They see a world of conspiracy theories, imagined enemies and exaggerated slights. Ironically, they echo their far right rivals by demonizing Wall Street, the Big Banks, the Mainstream Media — and, frequently, Jews or Zionists. Both far right and far left radicals represent a politics of backlash and lashing out, not consensus-building or reaching out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    While the left has been outright attacking, the right wing has been primarily counter attacking.
    Whoever is in power doesn't have to attack. That's the opposition's job. And counter-attacking only works if people aren't paying attention to actual issues, since counter-attacks usually distract from the policy point rather than address it. What Republicans should be doing is DEFENDING their policies and choices, but they can't do that--at least not to the satisfaction of our country's majority. That's why they can't pass any policies. Well...that and the fact that Trump is entirely uninterested in policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Oh give me a break. This OP is silly for a number of reasons.

    1) It's laughable that psychology professionals would find a way to rationalize away their own professional rules. Oh, the cognitive dissonance!

    2) The article doesn't suggest that Trump's supporters suffer from a mental illness--you've misinterpreted what the article says.

    3) If 1/3 of all Americans are dangerously crazy, we're all f***ed.
    I dunno'. Meet a member of the alt left. If the violent reaction to the election of Trump is any indication we might just be screwed.

    Antifa Berkeley: Why the 'Alt-Left' Is a Problem | Time.com

    The “alt-left” designation helps explain the Democrats’ emerging civil war, with extremists assailing centrist liberals, and turning the word “neoliberal” into one of their overused epithets. It exposes the postmodern fanatics: bullies who violate liberal principles by shutting up speakers they dislike; brats who riot in Berkeley, Portland, Oakland and elsewhere when they don’t get their way; hypocrites who denounce their opponents’ unreason and violence yet can’t see their own; and brutes who whip each other into vulgar frenzies on the Internet. The “alt-left” is populated by ideologues who reject the American value of compromise. They see a world of conspiracy theories, imagined enemies and exaggerated slights. Ironically, they echo their far right rivals by demonizing Wall Street, the Big Banks, the Mainstream Media — and, frequently, Jews or Zionists. Both far right and far left radicals represent a politics of backlash and lashing out, not consensus-building or reaching out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    I don't agree with you about much but I do agree with you about this. Trump is bat shit crazy and the only way to explain the people that still support him since he took office is that they have to be some kind of crazy too.
    ...... this time magazine article about antifa just described "this" guy and "this" picture just validates "this" article and "you" just agreed with "these" people.

    So, just who's bat shit crazy now?

    Antifa Berkeley: Why the 'Alt-Left' Is a Problem | Time.com

    The “alt-left” designation helps explain the Democrats’ emerging civil war, with extremists assailing centrist liberals, and turning the word “neoliberal” into one of their overused epithets. It exposes the postmodern fanatics: bullies who violate liberal principles by shutting up speakers they dislike; brats who riot in Berkeley, Portland, Oakland and elsewhere when they don’t get their way; hypocrites who denounce their opponents’ unreason and violence yet can’t see their own; and brutes who whip each other into vulgar frenzies on the Internet. The “alt-left” is populated by ideologues who reject the American value of compromise. They see a world of conspiracy theories, imagined enemies and exaggerated slights. Ironically, they echo their far right rivals by demonizing Wall Street, the Big Banks, the Mainstream Media — and, frequently, Jews or Zionists. Both far right and far left radicals represent a politics of backlash and lashing out, not consensus-building or reaching out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Whoever is in power doesn't have to attack. That's the opposition's job. And counter-attacking only works if people aren't paying attention to actual issues, since counter-attacks usually distract from the policy point rather than address it. What Republicans should be doing is DEFENDING their policies and choices, but they can't do that--at least not to the satisfaction of our country's majority. That's why they can't pass any policies. Well...that and the fact that Trump is entirely uninterested in policy.
    Except they aren't attacking on policy issues, they are attacking with fists, eggs, knives, firecrackers, bike locks and more...

    I'm not talking all democrats, I'm talking the more radical leftists, unfortunately, when you try to say "alternative" left, they say "no, we are a united front", on your behalf. Think about that.

    That's why trump has been hated more than any other president in American history for actually doing or trying to do what he said he would accomplish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    The 32% who still support Trump are most likely suffering from a mental illness too. The alt-right is as dangerous to the world as that psycho Trump.
    Psychology is not a science. Anyone can find a bunch of psychologists who hate Obama, and write exactly the same book. So it’s a logical fallacy – argumentum ad populum - a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many… people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so."

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    We've been fucked for a long time as the U.S. slowly becomes more and more tyrannical.
    The United States is not tyrannical, by definition. That’s a fact.

    Psycho Trump
    Trump isn’t a psycho by definition. That’s a fact.

    Trump is not that much different than Kim Jong-un.
    Trump is very different from Kim Jong-un, by definition. That’s a fact. For starters, Kim IS a tyrant. He is a communist. He is a murderer. He is Korean. He was not elected. He is not a businessman. He hates America. He hates capitalism. The list goes on and on.

    If you’re going to talk politics, you first need to learn a little. You need to know about history, the world, and about politicians. If you have no idea about these things, it’s best to let others handle the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    ...... this time magazine article about antifa just described "this" guy and "this" picture just validates "this" article and "you" just agreed with "these" people.

    So, just who's bat shit crazy now?



    The “alt-left” designation helps explain the Democrats’ emerging civil war, with extremists assailing centrist liberals, and turning the word “neoliberal” into one of their overused epithets. It exposes the postmodern fanatics: bullies who violate liberal principles by shutting up speakers they dislike; brats who riot in Berkeley, Portland, Oakland and elsewhere when they don’t get their way; hypocrites who denounce their opponents’ unreason and violence yet can’t see their own; and brutes who whip each other into vulgar frenzies on the Internet. The “alt-left” is populated by ideologues who reject the American value of compromise. They see a world of conspiracy theories, imagined enemies and exaggerated slights. Ironically, they echo their far right rivals by demonizing Wall Street, the Big Banks, the Mainstream Media — and, frequently, Jews or Zionists. Both far right and far left radicals represent a politics of backlash and lashing out, not consensus-building or reaching out.

    You don't need to be a doctor to recognize crazy. Trump is crazy and if people like you can't see it you must be in the same head space.
    Its like being a smoker. You don't notice you stink and so does the smoker next to you. Trust me, you both stink. You are so alike you just can't smell (see) it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    Trump is without a doubt bipolar
    Trump is not bipolar, and there is no doubt about that. You will find Trump haters, suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) insisting he’s bipolar, but then again, they think he’s a Russian agent, so you needn’t take them seriously.

    with countless other mental disorders.
    He has no mental disorders either, although some, who believe he is a Russian spy, may say so. You needn’t take them seriously as they suffer from TDS.

    Let’s face it, politics is not your forté.

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