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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Supreme court decisions are the law.

    You may want to check on The History of Gun regulation in the US...
    My statements are regarding the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Not Supreme Court opinions.

    There were no federal gun regulations regarding the states prior to twentieth century judicial activism.

    Point out where the Constitution grants the Supreme Court federal question jurisdiction over the state and where Supreme Court "decision" are the law.

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    A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows that a majority of voters support stricter gun control laws in the wake of last week’s mass murder of 58 concertgoers in Las Vegas by a single man with nearly two dozen firearms shooting from the window of his 32nd-floor hotel room. On most of the proposals to regulate gun ownership — including background checks, restrictions on where Americans can carry firearms and prohibitions against accessories like the “bump fire” stocks used by the Las Vegas gunman — large majorities express support in the poll, conducted last Thursday through Monday.

    Democratic voters are overwhelmingly supportive of new gun laws: Eighty-three percent back stricter laws, compared with only 12 percent who oppose them. Among independents, 58 percent support stricter gun control, and a third oppose them.

    But the poll also finds some less-likely groups are closely split. Forty-nine percent of Republican voters support stricter gun control laws, and 45 percent oppose them. Among voters who said they supported Donald Trump in last year’s election, 46 percent are in favor of stricter gun laws and 48 percent are opposed.

    A 55 percent majority of gun owners back new restrictions, while 41 percent oppose them.

    Poll: Majority backs stricter gun control laws after Vegas shooting - POLITICO

    Oh wait - I thought if you were a "conservative" you can't support any gun regulations.


    Nice to see these numbers getting bi-partisan support BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows that a majority of voters support stricter gun control laws in the wake of last week’s mass murder of 58 concertgoers in Las Vegas by a single man with nearly two dozen firearms shooting from the window of his 32nd-floor hotel room. On most of the proposals to regulate gun ownership — including background checks, restrictions on where Americans can carry firearms and prohibitions against accessories like the “bump fire” stocks used by the Las Vegas gunman — large majorities express support in the poll, conducted last Thursday through Monday.

    Democratic voters are overwhelmingly supportive of new gun laws: Eighty-three percent back stricter laws, compared with only 12 percent who oppose them. Among independents, 58 percent support stricter gun control, and a third oppose them.

    But the poll also finds some less-likely groups are closely split. Forty-nine percent of Republican voters support stricter gun control laws, and 45 percent oppose them. Among voters who said they supported Donald Trump in last year’s election, 46 percent are in favor of stricter gun laws and 48 percent are opposed.

    A 55 percent majority of gun owners back new restrictions, while 41 percent oppose them.

    Poll: Majority backs stricter gun control laws after Vegas shooting - POLITICO

    Oh wait - I thought if you were a "conservative" you can't support any gun regulations.


    Nice to see these numbers getting bi-partisan support BTW.
    The poll did not include gun owners.

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    NYT conservative Bret Stephens: 'Repeal the Second Amendment' | TheHill

    I realize that writing for the NYT, as well as winning the Pulitzer, might impair Stephens' standing as a genuine conservative in the eyes of some here on PH. Before joining the NYT in April 2017, he wrote a column for the WSJ, a recognized conservative paper, as well as the neoconservative flagship magazine "Commentary".

    More about Mr. Stephens here:

    Bret Stephens - Right Web - Institute for Policy Studies

    So, a genuine conservative. And I think a necessary idea: the 2nd Amendment is killing us.

    Your thoughts?
    Kind of a tautological argument if you ask me. The Constitution assures guns "won't be outlawed" by declaring the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

    I think the more coherent position would be that outlawing certain weapons does not violate the 2nd amendment. Simplest example out there: is a nuclear warhead an example of "arms?" Then how is prohibiting private ownership thereof not a violation of the 2nd amendment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    My statements are regarding the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Not Supreme Court opinions.

    There were no federal gun regulations regarding the states prior to twentieth century judicial activism.

    Point out where the Constitution grants the Supreme Court federal question jurisdiction over the state and where Supreme Court "decision" are the law.
    Read this before you continue on -

    https://journals.law.stanford.edu/st...ins-modern-gun

    That's just one source on the subject; the are many more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    The poll did not include gun owners.
    Yeah, it did. Right there in bold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Read this before you continue on -

    https://journals.law.stanford.edu/st...ins-modern-gun

    That's just one source on the subject; the are many more.
    Your link substantiates my statements. I have no idea why you would use that paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Yeah, it did. Right there in bold.
    The actual survey asked of there was a gun in the home.

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    Stop using the title Second Amendment and start calling it Amendment Number 2, for all the shit it brings on America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    He's not a conservative on the issue of the second amendment is what I said.

    To be conservative means you are traditional and averse to change or innovation - which is the opposite of being liberal - which means you are open to change and willing to discard traditional values.

    So if he's arguing for change and the discarding of tradition (i.e. repealing the second amendment) then he is clearly not conservative on this issue.

    As to whether or not the majority of his political views are conservative or liberal I haven't a clue.
    So what you're saying is you're not interested in the topic itself, you're just against change. period.

    How sophisticated.

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