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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Total RWNJ Fantasy land. If all that was true Clinton would be President instead of Fat Nixon.
    Exactly, Comey is a life-long conservative, goes way out of FBI protocol to brand Hillary, gets Trump elected, yet he is in ca-hoots with Clinton.

    *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    Exactly, Comey is a life-long conservative, goes way out of FBI protocol to brand Hillary, gets Trump elected, yet he is in ca-hoots with Clinton.

    *sigh*

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    There's no corruption because they failed... seems like sound logic.

    Edit: contrary to popular belief, just because someone calls themselves Republican that does not mean they become perfect and immune from corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Not a single relevant comment...

    Ok, here's a more detailed timeline covering a slightly different timeframe :


    LOL - so now you using some random redd.it board for your "info"

    One that peddles in Conspiracy theories?

    Of course I'm not surprised by this...at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    There's no corruption because they failed... seems like sound logic.

    Edit: contrary to popular belief, just because someone calls themselves Republican that does not mean they become perfect and immune from corruption.
    Was it him making the very unusual statement that pretty much tarred Hillary that was the big giveaway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    Exactly, Comey is a life-long conservative, goes way out of FBI protocol to brand Hillary, gets Trump elected, yet he is in ca-hoots with Clinton.

    *sigh*

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    His political beliefs have no bearing on his loyalty to Clinton. Same with many other "conservatives". Power's what's important to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post

    October 2016 - Fisa warrant issued on Carter page / trump campaign
    your time line is off.



    According to the paper, the government's application for the FISA warrant cited contacts Page had with a Russian intelligence operative in 2013. According to court documents filed earlier this month in connection with a separate espionage case, the Russian tried to recruit Page as an intelligence source.
    Carter Page: FBI reportedly obtained FISA warrant to monitor ex-Trump adviser | Fox News


    According to a Federal Bureau of Investigation criminal complaint filed in 2015, Buryakov and two other Russian intelligence operatives identified as Victor Podobnyy and Igor Sporyshev discussed trying to recruit Page as an asset in 2013. Podobnyy and Sporyshev were also charged by the U.S. but were afforded diplomatic immunity and left the country, the Justice Department said in a statement in May.

    Page was not named in the complaint but he confirmed to BuzzFeed that he was the person being discussed as a potential asset by the Russians. Page knew he was the person because he was interviewed by FBI agents in 2013 as part of their investigation, according to BuzzFeed.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...it-carter-page

    Carter was known by the FBI since 2013. The FBI had convictions by 2015. Why would they wait till 2016 to surviel Page?

    It was known in 2016 that the FBI FISAed Page.
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    What a lose collection of conspiracy theories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    What a lose collection of conspiracy theories
    What isn't these days?

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    Here is a far more coherent timeline

    2016

    Feb. 17: “Putin called me a genius,” Trump says at a campaign event in South Carolina. According to PolitiFact, Trump would repeat the claim “three times in April, in a May interview on CNN, at a June rally in California, twice in July, and at an August town hall in Ohio.”

    March 6: Around the time George Papadopoulos learns he will be a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, he has a conversation with a supervisory campaign official. Papadopoulos leaves the conversation with the understanding that “a principal foreign policy focus of the Campaign was an improved U.S. relationship with Russia,” according to a plea agreement.

    March 14: Papadopoulos meets in Italy with a London-based professor who takes “great interest” in him after learning of his role in the Trump campaign, according to a plea agreement. Papadopoulos learns that the professor has “substantial connections with Russian government officials, which Papadopoulos thought could increase his importance as a policy advisor to the Campaign,” the plea agreement says.

    March 19: John Podesta’s staff is told incorrectly by another Clinton campaign staffer that an email instructing him to change his password is legitimate. The action allows Russian hackers into Podesta’s account.

    March 21: When asked who his foreign policy advisers are (in an interview with The Washington Post), Trump names, among others, Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, who he calls an “excellent guy.” Page is an American banker who had lived in Moscow for three years.

    March 22: Billy Rinehart, a former DNC employee working for the Clinton campaign, receives what he thinks is a legitimate email telling him to change his password. He enters his information, unwittingly giving Russian hackers access to his account.

    March 24: Papadopoulos meets in London with the professor, who is accompanied by a female Russian national, who is introduced as someone “with connections to senior Russian government officials,” according to the plea agreement. Papadopoulos emails a campaign supervisor after the meeting, along with several members of the foreign policy team, and tells them he discussed arranging a meeting with Russian leadership “to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump.” The campaign supervisor responds, “Great work,” according to the plea agreement.

    March 31: Trump attends a meeting in Washington with foreign policy advisors, including Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos “stated, in sum and substance, that he had connections that could help arrange a meeting between then-candidate Trump and President Putin,” according to the plea agreement.

    The White House later says it was the only meeting of the group to take place.

    During his time in Washington, Papadopoulos worked with the professor and female Russian national to “arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government, and took steps to advise the Campaign of his progress,” according to the plea agreement. In early April, he sends multiple emails to campaign officials about his contacts with the Russians.

    March 28: Trump hires Paul Manafort to help lead his delegate-gathering efforts. Manafort had worked recently as a senior adviser for pro-Russia Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

    April 18: The professor introduces Papadopoulos to an individual over email who Papadopoulos is told has connections to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Papadopoulos and the individual go on to have “multiple conversations over Skype and email about setting ‘the groundwork’ for a ‘potential’ meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials,” according to the plea deal.

    April 25: Papadopoulos emails a senior policy adviser to the Trump campaign and says, according to the plea deal: “The Russian government has an open invitation by Putin for Mr. Trump to meet him when he is ready []. The advantage of being in London is that these governments tend to speak a bit more openly in 'neutral' cities.”

    April 26: Papadopoulos meets the professor for breakfast at a London hotel. The professor says he has just returned from meeting with high-level Russian government officials in Moscow and that “he )the Professor) learned that that the Russians had obtained ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Clinton,” according to the plea deal. Papadopoulos would later tell the FBI that the professor also said the Russians had “emails of Clinton” and “they have thousands of emails.”

    April 27: Papadopoulos emails a high-ranking campaign official and writes, according to the plea agreement, that he would like “to discuss Russia's interest in hosting Mr. Trump. Have been receiving a lot of calls over the last month about Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right.” Papadopoulos also emails the senior policy advisor to say he has “some interesting messages coming in from Moscow about a trip when the time is right.”

    On the same day, Trump delivers his first major foreign policy address in Washington.
    He calls for better relations with Russia in the speech: “We desire to live peacefully and in friendship with Russia and China. We have serious differences with these two nations, and must regard them with open eyes, but we are not bound to be adversaries. We should seek common ground based on shared interests. Russia, for instance, has also seen the horror of Islamic terrorism. I believe an easing of tensions, and improved relations with Russia, from a position of strength only, is possible, absolutely possible. Common sense says this cycle, this horrible cycle of hostility must end and ideally will end soon. Good for both countries. Some say the Russians won’t be reasonable. I intend to find out. If we can’t make a deal under my administration, a deal that’s great — not good, great — for America, but also good for Russia, then we will quickly walk from the table. It’s as simple as that. We’re going to find out.”

    Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak is seated in the front row.

    May 4: Papadopoulos receives an email from individual with connections to the foreign affairs ministry, who says his colleagues are “open for cooperation” and offers to set up a meeting in Moscow. Papadopoulos forwards the email to a high-ranking campaign official, and asks: “What do you think? Is this something we want to move forward with?” according to the plea deal.

    May 5: Papadopoulos and the campaign supervisor have a phone call, after which Papadopoulos forwards him the email from the Russian foreign affairs contact.

    May 14: Papadopoulos reiterates in an email to a high-ranking campaign official that the Russian government is “interested in hosting Mr. Trump.”

    May 18: James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, says at a Washington event there are “some indications” of cyberattacks aimed at the presidential campaigns.

    May 21: Papadopoulos emails another high-ranking campaign official to state that Russia “has been eager to meet Mr. Trump for quite sometime [sic].”

    Early June: At a meeting of foreign policy experts with the Indian prime minister, Page praises Putin as a stronger leader than Obama, according to The Washington Post.

    June 14: The DNC announces it has been the victim of an attack by Russian hackers.

    June 15: A hacker going by the name Guccifer 2.0 posts documents stolen from the DNC, including the Democrats’ plan of attack against Trump. Trump releases a statement accusing the DNC of being behind the hack “as a way to distract from the many issues facing their deeply flawed candidate and failed party leader.”

    June 19: Papadopoulos offers in an email to a high-ranking campaign official to travel to Russia to meet with officials if Trump is unable to. He states he is willing “to make the trip off the record if it’s in the interest of the Mr. Trump and the campaign to meet specific people.”

    June 21: Guccifer 2.0 posts documents stolen from the DNC on Clinton’s vulnerabilities as well as potential responses to lines of attack.

    uly 7: At a speech in Moscow, Page criticized the United States and other Western democracies. “Washington and other Western powers have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption and regime change,” Page said.

    POLITICO later reveals that Trump’s former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski approved the trip.

    Week of July 18: Three Trump national security advisers — Page, J.D. Gordon and Walid Phares — meet with Kislyak in Cleveland. They told him they hoped to see improved relations with Russia.

    July 18: The Republican National Convention adopts the official Republican Party platform, with the following language on Ukraine: “We support maintaining and, if warranted, increasing sanctions, together with our allies, against Russia unless and until Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored. We also support providing appropriate assistance to the armed forces of Ukraine and greater coordination with NATO defense planning. … We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine, Georgia, or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate constitutional measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination.”

    The Washington Post reports the same day: “The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.”

    Gordon, one of Trump’s national security advisers, would later tell CNN that he opposed efforts to add language that was more aggressively pro-Ukraine because he believed that would have been inconsistent with Trump’s public statements on the matter.

    July 20: Sen. Jeff Sessions, an early Trump endorser who led his national security advisory committee, meets with Ambassador Kislyak and a group of other ambassadors at a Republican National Convention event.

    July 22: WikiLeaks publishes about 20,000 emails stolen from the DNC. The emails appeared to show a preference for Hillary Clinton over Sen. Bernie Sanders among DNC leadership.

    July 24: DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigns amid the controversial fallout from the email dump.

    July 25: The FBI announced it was investigating the DNC hack and stated that "a compromise of this nature is something we take very seriously." That same day, The Daily Beast reported: “The FBI suspects that Russian government hackers breached the networks of the Democratic National Committee and stole emails that were posted to the anti-secrecy site WikiLeaks on Friday. It’s an operation that several U.S. officials now suspect was a deliberate attempt to influence the presidential election in favor of Donald Trump, according to five individuals familiar with the investigation of the breach.”

    July 26: Intelligence officials inform the White House that they have “high confidence” that Russia is behind the DNC hacks.

    July 27: Trump calls on Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails from the private server she used as secretary of state.
    “I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said at a news conference. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

    Pence releases a statement the same day, which his staffers say was drafted before Trump’s comments.

    “The FBI will get to the bottom of who is behind the hacking,” Pence said. “If it is Russia and they are interfering in our elections, I can assure you both parties and the United States government will ensure there are serious consequences.” But he went on to say there should be increased focus on the contents of the hacks and what they exposed about the Democratic Party.

    Obama, in an interview with NBC, says of the DNC hacks: “I know that experts have attributed this to the Russians.”

    July 31: An interview airs on ABC in which Trump says of Russia’s annexation of Crimea: "But you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also." Trump also says in the interview that he was not involved in efforts to defeat an amendment to the Republican platform that would have added more aggressively pro-Ukraine language.

    In an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Paul Manafort says that the effort to block the pro-Ukraine amendment “absolutely did not come from the Trump campaign. … No one, zero.”

    Aug. 8: Trump ally and friend Roger Stone tells a group of Florida Republicans that he has “communicated with Assange.”

    “I believe the next tranche of his documents pertain to the Clinton Foundation but there's no telling what the October surprise may be,” Stone says.

    Aug. 12: Guccifer 2.0 releases the cellphone numbers and email addresses of almost all of the Democrats in the House of Representatives, apparently with documents stolen from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    The digital security firm ThreatConnect announces that day that another site posting leaked documents, DC Leaks, appears to be linked to Russian intelligence services. The site’s documents also mostly targeted Democrats, but it also had emails stolen from campaign staffers for noted Russia hawks GOP Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

    Aug. 14: The New York Times publishes an exposť on Ukrainian documents that appeared to show that $12.7 million in cash was earmarked for Manafort by the Russia-aligned Party of Regions.

    August 15: The campaign supervisor tells Papadopoulos that “I would encourage you” and another foreign policy adviser to “make the trip…if it is feasible.” The trip did not take place.

    Aug. 17: Trump receives his first classified intelligence briefing. It is later reported by NBC that Trump received information at the briefing about “direct links” between the Russian government and the email hacks. Trump names Kellyanne Conway as his campaign manager and Steve Bannon as campaign chief executive in a move that appears to push Manafort to the background.

    Aug. 19: Manafort resigns.

    Aug. 21: Long-time Trump friend and confidant Roger Stone writes on Twitter: “Trust me, it will soon the Podesta's time in the barrel. #CrookedHillary”

    Sept. 5: The Washington Post reports that U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies are investigating “a broad covert Russian operation in the United States to sow public distrust in the upcoming presidential election and in U.S. political institutions.”

    Obama holds what he calls a “candid, blunt and businesslike” meeting with Putin at the G-20 Summit in China. The two meet for about 90 minutes, and Obama says afterward: "We've had problems with cyber intrusions from Russia and other countries in the past." But he declines to comment on “specific investigations.”

    Sept. 7: Clapper reiterates Obama’s point that experts believe Russia is behind the DNC hack.

    Trump praises Putin at an NBC forum, saying Putin had an 82 percent approval rating in Russia and adding: “He’s been a leader far more than our president has been a leader.”

    Trump also once again noted that Putin had complimented him.

    “I think when he calls me brilliant I’ll take the compliment, but it’s not going to get him anywhere,” Trump said.

    Sept. 8: Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says Moscow is watching the presidential campaign closely and is willing to improve ties with the U.S. whoever wins, but says, in reference to Trump’s praise, that Russia will wait to see the winner’s rhetoric “after they are elected.”

    "We hope that after the end of the [U.S.] election campaign, we will see Washington’s political will towards building good relations," he said. The government-owned Russian News Agency TASS also reported on Peskov’s comments: “He also said the Kremlin paid more attention to the statements made by the candidates than to those of the outgoing president.”

    Sen. Jeff Sessions, a prominent Trump surrogate, meets in his Senate office with Kislyak.

    Trump tells the Kremlin-backed Russia Today in an interview that “it’s probably unlikely” Russia is interfering in the election.

    “I think maybe the Democrats are putting that out,” Trump says. He adds that foreign interference in the election would be “inappropriate.”

    In an interview with CNN, Pence says that “it's inarguable that Vladimir Putin has been a stronger leader in his country than Barack Obama has been in this country.”

    Sept. 13: Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, lodged a formal complaint with the U.N. over one U.N. official’s condemnation of Trump and some populist leaders in Europe.

    Sept. 26: Foreign policy adviser Carter Page steps down from the Trump campaign.
    This is only up to Page’s resignation and including 2016.

    The full timeline keeps going and started in 2013

    https://www.politico.com/trump-russi...line-of-events

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    Here is a far more coherent timeline



    This is only up to Pageís resignation and including 2016.

    The full timeline keeps going and started in 2013

    https://www.politico.com/trump-russi...line-of-events
    Too bad that this is such a mashup of facts and fictions...

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