Page 2 of 32 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 318
Thanks Tree198Thanks

Thread: Trump won't declassify Democratic memo

  1. #11
    Moderator HayJenn's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    47,595
    Thanks
    36771

    From
    CA
    So let me understand. The President ignored DOJ concerns to release the #GOPMemo but is now yielding to DOJ concerns to block release of #DemocratMemo?

    https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/statu...35952046075904

  2. #12
    Franken-Stein DemoKKKrats excalibur's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    8,730
    Thanks
    2962

    From
    The Milky Way
    LOL There is no comparison between the memos. That phony Schiff intended to leave classified info in the Dims memo so as to get it rejected from release. Schiff has played the left again.


    "Although the president is inclined to declassify the Feb. 5 memo, because the memorandum contains numerous properly classified and especially sensitive passages, he is unable to do so at this time," McGahn said in the letter.

    "However, given the public interest and transparency in these unprecedented circumstances, the president has directed that Justice Department personnel be available to give technical assistance to the committee."

    Justice staffers would be available "should the committee wish to revise the Feb. 5 memorandum to mitigate risks identified," McGahn said. "The president urges the committee to undertake these efforts."

    McGahn's letter included a document from Attorney General Jeff Sessions and his deputy, Rod Rosenstein, raising concerns about passages in the Democratic response that involved "longstanding principles regarding the protection of intelligence sources and methods, ongoing investigations and other similarly sensitive information."
    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/tru.../09/id/842564/

  3. #13
    Human Bean KnotaFrayed's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    13,962
    Thanks
    11554

    From
    Here
    How many can we check off with this POTUS and his "supporters"/trolls/shills?




    "Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy."

    "The 14 characteristics are:"

    "Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays."

    "Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc."

    "Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. "

    "Supremacy of the Military
    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. "

    "Rampant Sexism
    The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy. "

    "Controlled Mass Media
    Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common."

    "Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses."

    "Religion and Government are Intertwined
    Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions."

    "Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite."

    "Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed ."

    "Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts."

    "Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations."

    "Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders."

    "Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections."


    https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html


    When comes the "need" for a similar "decree" from King Donald? -----> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree

    Then the final move to a single party state? -------> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933


    Imagine if any Clinton, or Obama did this sort of stuff....imagine ANY Democrat doing it, much less any Republican, before Reagan......

    There are plenty still around who saw what Nixon did and contributed to the recommendation to impeach him....leading to his resignation, before impeachment was set into motion.


    The question ANY American should be asking, is, like free speech and other vital Constitutional rights and the intent of any system of justice, was the intent of Presidential "privilege", to protect the guilty or to protect the innocent. When there is a dispute and contradiction about who did what and it comes down to a stalemate of A said/B said........the truth is determined how and should either, A or B, be able to essentially fire or otherwise knock off any investigations into whether they are guilty or innocent?

    If exhibitions of political bias are admissions or proof of guilt of some crime or injustice, the POTUS would be long gone, if not even elected. Two FBI agents, fired for communicating what Trump supporters admire about Trump as "telling it like it is" in telephone communications, had NO equivalent platform to Trump when it comes to his daily Tweets and the daily press he receives, often bashing other Americans, American institutions and showing his own political bias. He is supposed to represent the nation, NOT a political party and not his own personal enrichment...

    Apparently the same people that like Trump's "telling it like it is" do NOT like it when people tell it like it is, ABOUT Trump...... Reality seems to be the enemy of Trump and Trump supporters.... who represent less than half of America, but many, in Russia.

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/w...s-new-low.aspx

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/...ps-leadership/



    Why?

    We know why.
    Last edited by KnotaFrayed; 9th February 2018 at 07:18 PM.
    Thanks from EnigmaO01 and Eve1

  4. #14
    Franken-Stein DemoKKKrats excalibur's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    8,730
    Thanks
    2962

    From
    The Milky Way
    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    How many can we check off with this POTUS and his "supporters"/trolls/shills?

    You've got the wrong thread.

  5. #15
    Moderator HayJenn's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    47,595
    Thanks
    36771

    From
    CA
    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    LOL There is no comparison between the memos. That phony Schiff intended to leave classified info in the Dims memo so as to get it rejected from release. Schiff has played the left again.



    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/tru.../09/id/842564/
    LOL at Newsmax

    Then why did the entire House Committee voted to release the D memo??
    Thanks from Friday13, EnigmaO01 and Idiocracat

  6. #16
    Cyborg Coyote's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    6,024
    Thanks
    7207

    From
    Unimatrix Zero
    Quote Originally Posted by Idiocracat View Post
    Shocker.

  7. #17
    New Member LuvMyPups's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    602
    Thanks
    132

    From
    California
    No surprise. Everyone knew the dems were going to try to pull a fast one. Their memo is being sent back to them for revision.
    Thanks from pragmatic

  8. #18
    Veteran Member HenryPorter's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    20,125
    Thanks
    10616

    From
    N48 51.489 E2 17.67119
    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    The real truth... Kept from you by democrats for ages. They want to release the truth but that monster trump won't let them lie some more using classified material they never should have obtained in the first place.
    You're a joke.

    Here, you got a little more carrying to do for Trump, chop chop.
    water bucket.jpg
    Thanks from EnigmaO01 and Friday13

  9. #19
    Veteran Member EnigmaO01's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    17,421
    Thanks
    9355

    From
    Indiana
    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    The D's should just read the memo on the floor.
    Unfortunately they can't. They could be jailed.

    I do wonder if someone will leak it out though.

  10. #20
    the "good" prag pragmatic's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    29,924
    Thanks
    18139

    From
    between Moon and NYC
    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Yes he does. He could choose to either declassify the memo like he did with the Nunes memo or choose to redact the classified parts.

    He does not what the real truth to come out. Even though the Nunes memo ended up being a big nothing.

    Valid point.
    Thanks from EnigmaO01

Page 2 of 32 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 6th February 2018, 09:05 AM
  2. Democratic Counter Memo
    By Lunchboxxy in forum Current Events
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 5th February 2018, 04:56 PM
  3. Replies: 26
    Last Post: 24th February 2017, 01:48 PM
  4. CIA to declassify years worth of documents
    By Luigi in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 23rd June 2007, 08:40 AM

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed