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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    It would seem baptism and CPR would be a good match if someone was held under water for too long.
    This reminds me of a old wives tale about baptism...just throw them in the lake and if they surface they are saved or if they drowned they were evil. This is a fun community outreach class to help kids in the event that Grandma or their parents go down...they know what to do from 911 to chest compression's. IMO, positive community outreach is the foundation of any good church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    No it's not. It would be for teachers or other school employees, but not for students. The whole point of bullying is that it is difficult or impossible to ignore--that's what makes it bullying.
    That is why proselytizing in public schools is inappropriate for other students, too; they are preaching to an effectively captive audience. Though they are not agents of the state (usually), they are using the state's power to create the captive audience of which they are taking unfair advantage. This is distinct from voluntary clubs, though, which are more interested in their own internal activities than proselytizing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5 stringer View Post
    So? It's called free speech. I'm sure kids talk about homosexuality in between classes and at lunch. So what.
    Homosexuality is not a religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I have never had a Christian tell me that in my life and I have been in church off and on my entire life.
    When I was in Army basic training, there were several evangelical types in my platoon gave me the "you are going to Hell" speech. They also parrotted a version of Pascal's Wager, and my quick debunking of that just made them angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Thank G-d for that, no pun intended lol
    I must object to this most strenuously. The pun should always be intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    This reminds me of a old wives tale about baptism...just throw them in the lake and if they surface they are saved or if they drowned they were evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    There's another thread about bullying in schools and videos and such. Some people object to anti-bullying videos regarding gay people and want videos about not bullying Christians. I have another, more controversial question--is the Great Commission an instruction to bully others?

    Proselytizing means telling people about the Good News of Jesus, but it often (always?) comes with a both carrot and stick. Don't Christians regularly say "If you don't accept Jesus in your heart, you are an enemy of God and you're going to hell"?

    Is that bullying?
    Probably not a good idea to start labeling every form of persuasion as some sort of bullying. I'd say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I have never had a Christian tell me that in my life and I have been in church off and on my entire life. Many denominations and churches. No, I am pretty sure they don't "regularly" say things like that. This is absurd.
    Any baptist or Assembly of God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    There's another thread about bullying in schools and videos and such. Some people object to anti-bullying videos regarding gay people and want videos about not bullying Christians. I have another, more controversial question--is the Great Commission an instruction to bully others?

    Proselytizing means telling people about the Good News of Jesus, but it often (always?) comes with a both carrot and stick. Don't Christians regularly say "If you don't accept Jesus in your heart, you are an enemy of God and you're going to hell"?

    Is that bullying?
    Most of the Christians I know do NOT "regularly say, "If you don't accept Jesus in your heart, you are an enemy of God and you're going to hell".......Most keep their belief between themselves, the teachings of Christ and God and do NOT proselytize.......But then their Bibles seem to have chapters in them that appear to be missing from the Bibles of some other "Christians". Oddly, they seem to believe God created all humans and all humans were astonishingly or not, created equally. Some of them might also believe that using fear tactics as a means to get someone to believe in the same God, would be considered a form of bullying and therefore, not consistent with their belief in the theme of Christ's overall teachings. They are not heard from much for the very reason they believe faith and belief are personal, not something to force upon others or exploit human fear as a means to add to their numbers, especially by those humans that use dogma as a form of fear bullying to place people under their manipulative rule for their personal profit, be it monetary or to impose their personal tastes and desires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Any baptist or Assembly of God?
    I was raised Baptist and most of my family is as well. There are different levels of rigidness in the different denominations of Baptist. I prefer non-denomination myself. I have visited a lot of different religions over the years. Right now, my husband says I am a Buddhist because I attend more yoga classes than services these days . I won't sit and listen to stupidity or stuff that scares me or makes me feel bad. I don't have time for that. My Grandmother was a "ole regular Baptist" which is pretty strict, but she was a good woman and ahead of her time. She had 7 sons who gave her a tough time and that made her pretty non-judgmental.

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