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    Is proselytizing bullying, if it's done by the majority?

    There's another thread about bullying in schools and videos and such. Some people object to anti-bullying videos regarding gay people and want videos about not bullying Christians. I have another, more controversial question--is the Great Commission an instruction to bully others?

    Proselytizing means telling people about the Good News of Jesus, but it often (always?) comes with a both carrot and stick. Don't Christians regularly say "If you don't accept Jesus in your heart, you are an enemy of God and you're going to hell"?

    Is that bullying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Is that bullying?
    I have referred to it as spiritual terrorism. In fact, terrorism is a subset of bullying, an extreme version.

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    There's a guy that stands on a street corner with a sign telling people to "repent and believe on the Lord". The back of the sign says "The wages of sin is death. Believe on the Lord and have eternal life". Doesn't sound like bullying to me. Sounds like a choice. Bullying is force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5 stringer View Post
    There's a guy that stands on a street corner with a sign telling people to "repent and believe on the Lord". The back of the sign says "The wages of sin is death. Believe on the Lord and have eternal life". Doesn't sound like bullying to me. Sounds like a choice. Bullying is force.
    Not all bullying is by force. The Emperor and the later King who created the most popular versions of the Bible certain knew of more subtle powers of persuasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5 stringer View Post
    There's a guy that stands on a street corner with a sign telling people to "repent and believe on the Lord". The back of the sign says "The wages of sin is death. Believe on the Lord and have eternal life". Doesn't sound like bullying to me. Sounds like a choice. Bullying is force.
    Holding a sign is different than confronting people. You can hold a sign all day--it's not bullying. But when you insist on engaging people in conversation, following them around, or making them listen to you because they can't get away from you (as is often the case in schools), that might be bullying.

    You can read his sign or not. You can pay attention or not. That's not the way proselytizing usually works.
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    Not all bullying is by force.
    Yes, bullying is often verbal. Mostly verbal, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Holding a sign is different than confronting people. You can hold a sign all day--it's not bullying. But when you insist on engaging people in conversation, following them around, or making them listen to you because they can't get away from you (as is often the case in schools), that might be bullying.

    You can read his sign or not. You can pay attention or not. That's not the way proselytizing usually works.
    Proselytizing is against the law in public schools. Someone hands me a religious literature, i choose to ignore it. I don't feel bullied at all. Used to have a few Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door, so I told them to not come back, and they never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5 stringer View Post
    Proselytizing is against the law in public schools. Someone hands me a religious literature, i choose to ignore it. I don't feel bullied at all. Used to have a few Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door, so I told them to not come back, and they never did.
    Not everyone is an adult male like you who can say no and almost everyone respects it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Holding a sign is different than confronting people. You can hold a sign all day--it's not bullying. But when you insist on engaging people in conversation, following them around, or making them listen to you because they can't get away from you (as is often the case in schools), that might be bullying.

    You can read his sign or not. You can pay attention or not. That's not the way proselytizing usually works.
    I remember being verbally attacked by a street preacher in San Francisco because I was dressing like a man in violation of Biblical instruction. I was wearing jeans. He was using me as an example of signs heralding the coming of the end times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    Not everyone is an adult male like you who can say no and almost everyone respects it.
    You mean like school kids held captive in a classroom and forced to watch a video about homosexuality?
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