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    The capital crime of 'Walking wearing a hoodie while being black ...'

    Around 7 p.m. on February 26, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin walked out of the gated community near Orlando where he was visiting his father to go get some Skittles at a neighborhood convenience store. On his way home, Martin somehow aroused the suspicions of neighborhood watch leader, George Zimmerman, who called 911 to report the boy.

    When police arrived, Martin was dead, shot by a bullet from Zimmerman's 9mm semi-automatic handgun. Zimmerman, 28, who was bleeding from the nose and back of his head when police found him, claimed the two got in a scuffle and that he shot the boy in self-defense. Thus far, no charges have been filed against him...

    Was Trayvon Martin, who was unarmed, posing a threat to Zimmerman's life? We may never know for sure, but in Florida - and a growing number of states - what matters isn't whether or not Martin was actually a threat, only that Zimmerman "reasonably" believed he was...

    But what is reasonable? Ekow Yankah, an associate professor of criminal law at Cardozo School of Law in New York, says that to some people, it is reasonable to be suspicious of a young black man walking alone in the dark.

    "We have to decide what counts as 'reasonable' to be afraid of, and nobody should pretend that that isn't socially and culturally loaded," says Yankah.

    Gregory O'Meara, an associate professor of law at Marquette University School of Law, agrees.
    "These 'stand your ground' laws license pistol-packing urban cowboys and paranoid people," says O'Meara, who fought the passage of a similar law in Wisconsin. "We've all been trained to be afraid of black men, and if you're afraid enough that justifies everything."
    The Trayvon Martin case exposes the realities of a new generation of self-defense laws - Crimesider - CBS News

    I have read a number of news reports of this incident, and the facts that have been reported as incontrovertible are -

    Martin was not acting suspiciously (loitering, peering into windows, etc.) - he was just walking slowly in the rain.

    Zimmerman had no cause to follow him, let alone apprehend him.

    Zimmerman was 28 years old, armed, and weighed 100 lbs more than the 17 year old.

    Zimmerman called 911 to report a suspicious stranger on the street, and was told by the dispatcher not to follow him, and not to leave his car.

    Witnesses claimed to have heard the boy crying out in terror, before a gunshot silenced the sound.

    Zimmerman had been charged with violence in or around 2005, and had a reputation in the gated community for being aggressive, particularly with anyone who challenged his authority.

    Zimmerman's position as 'captain' of the neighbourhood watch was a self-appointed one, and he patrolled the neighbourhood in his own SUV.

    I am very close to Martin's age, and I know, had I been approached and challenged by an unidentified stranger during the hours of darkness; I would have told him to feck off and leave me alone. I would also have physically resisted any attempt from someone obviously not a policeman, to apprehend me

    It is my conjecture that this is precisely what happened, and when Zimmerman tried to physically detain the kid, and a scuffle ensued. Surprisingly (given their comparative ages and size), according to a witness who claims to have seen part of the scuffle, Martin appeared to be getting the better of Zimmerman. It is possible that this so angered the self-important Zimmerman, that he drew the pistol he had tucked into his belt, and shot Martin at point blank range. Having realised what he had done, he concocted the story of fearing for his life from an unarmed teenaged opponent, who was nearly half his body mass.

    Of course this is merely conjecture, and proven events may indicate otherwise, but that appears to me to be the balance of probability.

    Of great concern is the fact that the attending police appear to have coached Zimmerman in his claim of self-defence, and to have corrected at least one witness in order to corroborate Zimmerman's version of events. Per example - several people claimed to have heard the boy crying out in terror and pleading for his life right up until the point he was shot dead. But the attending police refused to note that as fact, and claimed that it was Zimmerman crying out for help.

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    He's a murderer. Good kid walking home from the store where he had gotten some candy for his brother. I want the man in PRISON.

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    Yup. All he did was walk to the store for candy and iced tea. This asshole had been complained about many times, the local police dept has many complaints against it for race problems, and they're protecting this guy. Zimmerman said to the dispatcher "He's black" and "These assholes always get away". Then he plugs him with 9mm.



    Here in Florida, believe it or not, you're allowed to shoot and kill someone just because you "feel afraid". I know, that sounds crazy, you'd think there has to be some higher standard, but there isn't...not since a few years ago thanks to our republican legislature.
    All you have to be is "scared".
    I knew this shit would happen the minute I heard about this crazy new law. Thanks, gun nuts.
    This isn't the first time by far that the law has been abused, but it's the first time an obvious racial factor has played a part.
    The police capt is resisting doing an investigation, but the bad press may light an unwelcome fire under his sheet-covered ass.

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    If I were the investigating officer, I would question the shooter at length and in detail about what transpired. Any inconsistency between his story and the physical evidence.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    He's a murderer. Good kid walking home from the store where he had gotten some candy for his brother. I want the man in PRISON.
    yup.. and a chickenshit coward who kills an unarmed child. If the police won't do anything about this killer then I hope the dead child's family take him to civil court.

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    The guy should have been in an interview room for 23 hours and 59 minutes. For his own safety he should have been arrested and taken downtown.

    And what I truly cannot understand is how restrained and controlled the black population of the town has been. I've even read interviews with the parents where they are ... well they are not absolutely out of their fucking minds with murderous rage and promising to go Kill Bill on this guy and everyone he's ever known.

    Could you imagine Paris if this had happened there? L.A.? San Paulo?


    Are these people so far down they don't even have the energy left to riot?

    If my healthy, happy son went out to get candy and never came home. And it was some local fuss-pot piece of shit who murdered him I would lose my mind. I would actually lose my mind. They'd find him a decade later in a storage facility.

    I mean think of the other kid. The one that will remember forever that the candy was for him. I would burn that 'gated community' to the ground. To the ground, and still not be satisfied.

    Not saying it's right, just saying... where is it?????


    Jesus Christ! It was SEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT!

    Is it even dark at 7 in Florida? It's not dark here at 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gently View Post
    And what I truly cannot understand is how restrained and controlled the black population of the town has been. I've even read interviews with the parents where they are ... well they are not absolutely out of their fucking minds with murderous rage and promising to go Kill Bill on this guy and everyone he's ever known.

    Could you imagine Paris if this had happened there? L.A.? San Paulo? Are these people so far down they don't even have the energy left to riot?
    There are peaceful marches, but riots would be counter-productive at this point.. and as long as the people's grievances are being addressed in a timely manner, then there is no need for violence.




    Several hundred people, led by pastor Glenn Dames, gather at the historic courthouse after marching from St. James AME Church to demand justice in the Feb. 28 shooting death of Trayvon Martin, in Titusville, Fla. on Sunday, March 18, 2012.


    Pastor Glenn Dames, holding a bag of skittles and Ice Tea, waits as several hundred people stage at St. James AME Church to participate in a march demanding justice in the Feb. 28 shooting death of Trayvon Martin, led by pastor Glenn Dames, in Titusville, Fla. on Sunday, March 18, 2012.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nat...2.photogallery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo2 View Post
    I am very close to Martin's age, and I know, had I been approached and challenged by an unidentified stranger during the hours of darkness; I would have told him to feck off and leave me alone. I would also have physically resisted any attempt from someone obviously not a policeman, to apprehend me.
    can get involved..



    1,000,000 Hoodie March for Trayvon Martin - #millionhoodies

    I'm number 7hundredthousandsomething in the petition
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    Petition at almost 900k.. go sign it already, PHers

    http://www.change.org/petitions/pros...trayvon-martin

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