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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    So, all you who are passionate about getting it right.

    How can the press spend 6 weeks posing various theories to explain a missing jet, but just roll over and accept the White House cherry picking and promotion of a single theory to explain the death of 4 Americans?
    Because that was almost a two years ago and video or no video those 4 Americans would still be dead?

    Please note that not one of the above quotes are from Fox News (though I will mention that the Bair report of 10/12/2012 does mention elements of these reports, including the video).
    Even if the results of this investigation are everything you hope them to be, what happens next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Even if the results of this investigation are everything you hope them to be, what happens next?
    What should happen next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    The right has blown this all out of proportion. The news media has reported all of this. It's all out there. What more do you want them to do?
    What made Watergate a scandal? Was a dirty tricks operation to break into a political opponent's office worthy of the impeachment of the President? Did the Democrats blow the matter out of proportion? What was the scandal inside these minor events?

    What has not been reported and what I am examining in this thread is the possibility that the White House directed the press to get the coverage it wanted in the 2012 election. There is far more than a hint of this and if it can be proven, basic reforms may be produced. I want those reforms. I want to live in a secular world where reason and facts and truth matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Because that was almost a two years ago and video or no video those 4 Americans would still be dead? Even if the results of this investigation are everything you hope them to be, what happens next?
    Distrust of charismatic liars.

    A more aggressive press that will go back to its roots and confront power, ALWAYS, regardless of politics.

    A universal rejection of pop culture as a measurement of worthiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    What should happen next?
    According to Stormfront, the President should be impeached and executed. Can we get some Amens from the RWNJ cohort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    According to Stormfront, the President should be impeached and executed. Can we get some Amens from the RWNJ cohort?
    You hang out on sites like that often, sir? I ask again, what should happen? What does the LWNJ cohort believe should happen if this investigation produces undeniably rotten fruit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Here is the question I would like to see answered by the inquiry.

    The CIA and the White House started baking talking points on the 14th (9/14/2012). Who baked whom and how has been the focus of most discussions.

    However, the White House and the Media were linking the attacks to the internet video and a spontaneous demonstration 2 days earlier and many reports were unattributed. It was reported as a fact, not a theory and it was repeated again and again. But not by everyone. So let's look for reports from 9/12 and 9/13 that did attribute that idea.

    First, I would like to establish that the White House Talking points came out immediately. This makes pinning down what occurred the night of the attacks essential.
    They were still repeating the video line as much as 3 weeks after. Obama went on The View and one of the obligatory bimbos asked him a planted question about the video and he claimed they still didn't know for sure (a bald-faced lie) but would certainly get to the bottom of it. It looks like now we might actually get to the bottom of it like Obama promised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    According to Stormfront, the President should be impeached and executed. Can we get some Amens from the RWNJ cohort?
    I certainly would not agree with that. Impeached and imprisoned would be more than sufficient.

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    As the president has gone missing after his 5:00-5:30pm meeting with Panetta/Dempsey, there is that opportunity for strategy meetings with Clinton and staff from which the 10:32pm statement would come.

    Also keep in mind the 9/12/12 Rose Garden address first mentioned the video/spontaneity point and later the more general and generic point of "acts", not a specific "act", of terror. The inclusion of the letter 's' is proper usage if the idea is to speak of various forms of violence from organizations to acts of passion. Not one specific form, like that of organized groups who's sole purpose is the marketing of violence for effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    What the fuck difference does it make? How much money is the right going to waste talking about it? If the admin deliberately used this excuse because they thought it was politically expedient to do so what is going to happen? Nothing. If they did not, what is going to happen? Nothing. What the fuck are they trying to prove and what happens if they do? Nothing.

    It's funny the right seems to think the admin used Benghazi to help them politically yet they are doing the same damn thing now only 10 times worse. Every dime or moment they spend rehashing this bullshit is a complete waste of taxpayer money, haven't they something better to do?
    Some times transparency, clarity and truth matter. While no one will go to jail, it is important for a nation to realize who they voted for and how that candidate spun his image right before their eyes. And to a lesser degree it is important that every faithful diehard follower of the president has the opportunity to face the depth and character of their loyalty. Not to say many will publicly acknowledge it. But it is important that we all have the opportunity to know the truth where ethics is affected at the societal level.
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