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    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    Some times transparency, clarity and truth matter. While no one will go to jail, it is important for a nation to realize who they voted for and how that candidate spun his image right before their eyes. And to a lesser degree it is important that every faithful diehard follower of the president has the opportunity to face the depth and character of their loyalty. Not to say many will publicly acknowledge it. But it is important that we all have the opportunity to know the truth where ethics is affected at the societal level.
    In other words, politics as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    You hang out on sites like that often, sir? I ask again, what should happen? What does the LWNJ cohort believe should happen if this investigation produces undeniably rotten fruit?
    After two years of fruitless and wasted politically motivated investigations? I think Republicans are not going to get the political benefits out of this they are hoping for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    After two years of fruitless and wasted politically motivated investigations? I think Republicans are not going to get the political benefits out of this they are hoping for.
    I don't care what anybody else wants. I want my grandchildren to grow up in a country where the lying of politicians is confronted by an objective press. That's what makes this a big deal to me.

    When I heard on 9/12/2012 that the death of the ambassador was "due to an offensive internet video" without even telling me where they got the idea, I was furious. I will remain furious until this whole thing is exposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Having made no progress in two years, based on what they now call "the CIA talking points", the RWNJ conspiracy has changed tack and will now supply it's own fresh talking points. Rinse and repeat, and repeat, and repeat.....
    The administration is very good at building roadblocks. It was able to eat up a lot of time. The Select Committee is designed to better force the issue. We'll just have to see how good it really is up against the cunning and treachery of the contemporary Progressive movement*.

    *The current Democrat leadership and its significant faithful following in media, academia and main street America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    After two years of fruitless and wasted politically motivated investigations? I think Republicans are not going to get the political benefits out of this they are hoping for.
    Funny how leftists are so quick to see an investigation as "politically motivated"
    but are (pretend to be) utterly blind to the reasons ObamaCo would purposefully mischaracterize what happened in Benghazi as a "spontaneous" protest gone awry "because" of a video.....less than 7 weeks away from a national election.

    Lemmings and liars, all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebeat1 View Post
    I don't believe there is a hell, but if there is, I'll see you there.
    Hmmm!...your faith in the administration appears more firm than your faith in a godless universe. Humanist? Certainly not a secular humanist given your post.

    Just a good dedicated Progressive, I guess, eh? Obama for now. Later...Clinton?... whatever the Democrats put up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    In other words, politics as usual.
    You and I can hold our individual interpretations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Nobody died in this famous scandal. Notice the timeline. That's over two years and with a media that largely hated Nixon. Do you think the media hates Obama? We are now a mere 18 months since the White House cherry picked the news reports, built their talking points and told the press what to cover and to not cover (by example, if not by agreement). There is clearly a scandal here. Though there were a few cracks in the cover up.

    Watergate scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    June 17, 1972 break-in

    In July 1973, as evidence mounted against the president's staff, including testimony provided by former staff members in an investigation conducted by the Senate Watergate Committee, it was revealed that President Nixon had a tape-recording system in his offices and he had recorded many conversations

    Facing near-certain impeachment in the House of Representatives and equally certain conviction by the Senate, Nixon resigned the presidency on August 9, 1974
    Why are you comparing what Nixon did with this issue? Yes, Nixon would have faced certain conviction and impeachment. However, even if Obama said we initially said Benghazi was due to that video because it sounded better he would not face any criminal offense nor impeachment, not a chance. Make sure your links keep mentioning the dead ambassador even if what you are insinuating Obama did happened after the guy was already dead, a lot of rightwingers are fucking stupid enough to think they are somehow related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    I would love to hear from anyone who thinks these reports are all part of a Fox news plot.

    Threats of damnation will be ignored.
    And I'd like to know from anyone who thinks Obama used Benghazi for political purposes yet the rightwingers spending millions today over a two year old issue are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    How can you not get a point I have made so often? Bad behavior by a politician (a very common thing) was not confronted by a press whose job it is to confront power (an increasingly common, but alarming truth).
    The death of those Americans in Benghazi was news, whether or not it was due to a movie or a planned attack is not. Especially not years later. If bad behavior by politicians is a common thing, how many yrs should the media be talking about it

    Is the Republican investigation political? ABSOLUTELY. Is it justified? ABSOLUTELY.

    It won't result in any legal action against anyone. But it will hopefully damage political and journalistic careers that need to be damaged. And it will hopefully convince politicians and journalists of all stripes to do their jobs, to represent the people, to make politics a necessary evil rather than a preoccupation and (for the press) to confront power and seek the truth.
    So, nothing criminal has taken place but we should spend millions to prove that? What, do the teabaggers who are for this think we are full money and can afford it? I thought they constantly were railing about our debt and how we need to cut spending?

    And Obama was wrong to use Benghazi for political purposes but it's just fine for the HOR to do the same as well as spending millions of taxpayer dollars to do it?

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