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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    What made Watergate a scandal?
    I don't know, Nixon resigned the next day, ask him.


    Was a dirty tricks operation to break into a political opponent's office worthy of the impeachment of the President?
    The president was behind breaking and entering and illegally evesdropping on others without their consent, that's a felony.

    Did the Democrats blow the matter out of proportion?
    Didn't have time, Nixon resigned as soon as it came to light.

    What was the scandal inside these minor events?
    Felonies are "minor" events?

    What has not been reported and what I am examining in this thread is the possibility that the White House directed the press to get the coverage it wanted in the 2012 election. There is far more than a hint of this and if it can be proven, basic reforms may be produced. I want those reforms. I want to live in a secular world where reason and facts and truth matter.
    You want to live in a secular world? That's a fucking joke if I ever heard of one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    You hang out on sites like that often, sir? I ask again, what should happen? What does the LWNJ cohort believe should happen if this investigation produces undeniably rotten fruit?
    I'd say eat that fruit because it can't possibly be rotten even if the right says it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDallas View Post
    They were still repeating the video line as much as 3 weeks after. Obama went on The View and one of the obligatory bimbos asked him a planted question about the video and he claimed they still didn't know for sure (a bald-faced lie) but would certainly get to the bottom of it. It looks like now we might actually get to the bottom of it like Obama promised.
    There is no way that even today one can make the statement that that video had nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDallas View Post
    I certainly would not agree with that. Impeached and imprisoned would be more than sufficient.
    On what charge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    Some times transparency, clarity and truth matter. While no one will go to jail, it is important for a nation to realize who they voted for and how that candidate spun his image right before their eyes. And to a lesser degree it is important that every faithful diehard follower of the president has the opportunity to face the depth and character of their loyalty. Not to say many will publicly acknowledge it. But it is important that we all have the opportunity to know the truth where ethics is affected at the societal level.
    There are more people that will be disgusted by the right's fucking waste of time and money than upset by something that is meaningless. I think the right will lose more votes than it will gain with their little fiasco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    I don't care what anybody else wants. I want my grandchildren to grow up in a country where the lying of politicians is confronted by an objective press. That's what makes this a big deal to me.

    When I heard on 9/12/2012 that the death of the ambassador was "due to an offensive internet video" without even telling me where they got the idea, I was furious. I will remain furious until this whole thing is exposed.
    But you are not bothered one bit by the loss of 4000 Americans and 2 trillion dollars in Iraq based on the lies of your president? Amazing, that tells people something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Funny how leftists are so quick to see an investigation as "politically motivated"
    kmiller just flatly stated that what the right is doing is purely political.

    but are (pretend to be) utterly blind to the reasons ObamaCo would purposefully mischaracterize what happened in Benghazi as a "spontaneous" protest gone awry "because" of a video.....less than 7 weeks away from a national election.

    Lemmings and liars, all.
    Just who the fuck would have voted for Romney instead of Obama based on what he said about Benghazi. The right has to make something up to be able to condemn Obama for something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Nobody died in this famous scandal. Notice the timeline. That's over two years and with a media that largely hated Nixon. Do you think the media hates Obama? We are now a mere 18 months since the White House cherry picked the news reports, built their talking points and told the press what to cover and to not cover (by example, if not by agreement). There is clearly a scandal here. Though there were a few cracks in the cover up.

    Watergate scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    June 17, 1972 break-in

    In July 1973, as evidence mounted against the president's staff, including testimony provided by former staff members in an investigation conducted by the Senate Watergate Committee, it was revealed that President Nixon had a tape-recording system in his offices and he had recorded many conversations

    Facing near-certain impeachment in the House of Representatives and equally certain conviction by the Senate, Nixon resigned the presidency on August 9, 1974
    .No... but a real crime was committed on US soil. From which the investigation sprung, not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    What the fuck difference does it make? How much money is the right going to waste talking about it? If the admin deliberately used this excuse because they thought it was politically expedient to do so what is going to happen? Nothing. If they did not, what is going to happen? Nothing. What the fuck are they trying to prove and what happens if they do? Nothing.

    It's funny the right seems to think the admin used Benghazi to help them politically yet they are doing the same damn thing now only 10 times worse. Every dime or moment they spend rehashing this bullshit is a complete waste of taxpayer money, haven't they something better to do?
    Track down the IRS crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    The death of those Americans in Benghazi was news, whether or not it was due to a movie or a planned attack is not. Especially not years later. If bad behavior by politicians is a common thing, how many yrs should the media be talking about it



    So, nothing criminal has taken place but we should spend millions to prove that? What, do the teabaggers who are for this think we are full money and can afford it? I thought they constantly were railing about our debt and how we need to cut spending?

    And Obama was wrong to use Benghazi for political purposes but it's just fine for the HOR to do the same as well as spending millions of taxpayer dollars to do it?
    Millions of dollars get blown flying Air Force One to democrat fund raisers but to seek out truth is a waste of money.

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