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    The spirit of the law versus the letter of the law versus parsing on steroids

    Anymore in Washington, nothing seems to matter at all.

    The spirit of laws is violated by people playing games with the letter of the law. And then even the letter of the law is said to not matter because people find some acrobatic way to reinterpret it.

    Whatever the people with the bully pulpit want to have happen can usually be made to be so through legalistic game playing.



    Or so it often seems.
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    Kim Strassel: The Next Prez and the Obama Way - WSJ

    "What the last guy showed is that the federal architecture is now so complex that you can always find a loophole."

    ^^ Yes. Obama's legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Anymore in Washington, nothing seems to matter at all.

    The spirit of laws is violated by people playing games with the letter of the law. And then even the letter of the law is said to not matter because people find some acrobatic way to reinterpret it.

    Whatever the people with the bully pulpit want to have happen can usually be made to be so through legalistic game playing.



    Or so it often seems.


    umm. That's law. The spirit of the law doesn't mean shit, what the law actually says and how it's interpreted by courts is what matters. You can sign a contract with someone that says something and then when you want to get out of it ypu can't claim "oh, that's not what I meant.

    It's why legal documents are so long and wordy, every thing has to be thought of and explicitly stated

    Seriously, such a lack of basic knowledge in law on display when people talk about the spirit of the law. Sometimes the courts will consider what the intentions were but that doesn't hold more water over what's actually written
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    The words don't mean sh*t anymore.

    Someone intent on violating the intent can find a loophole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    The words don't mean sh*t anymore.

    Someone intent on violating the intent can find a loophole.
    A court can undo anything. Ballot issues like California voting on illegals. One lib judge says nope. Voters be damned.

    If there was a legal issue about the proposition, why was it even on the ballot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    ... If there was a legal issue about the proposition, why was it even on the ballot?
    To the best of my knowledge, judges do not normally review ballot measures prior to an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Anymore in Washington, nothing seems to matter at all.

    The spirit of laws is violated by people playing games with the letter of the law. And then even the letter of the law is said to not matter because people find some acrobatic way to reinterpret it.

    Whatever the people with the bully pulpit want to have happen can usually be made to be so through legalistic game playing.



    Or so it often seems.
    I would remind people to read (or re-read) the preamble to the constitution. since most sources indicate it was written last, you might get some insight as to the intent of the constitution.

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