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    Is Your 'Religious Liberty' Being Threatened?

    "How to Determine if Your Religious Liberty Is Being Threatened in Just 10 Quick Questions."

    Just pick "A" or "B" for each question.


    1. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to go to a religious service of my own choosing.
    B) Others are allowed to go to religious services of their own choosing.

    2. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to marry the person I love legally, even though my religious community blesses my marriage.
    B) Some states refuse to enforce my own particular religious beliefs on marriage on those two guys in line down at the courthouse.

    3. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am being forced to use birth control.
    B) I am unable to force others to not use birth control.

    4. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to pray privately.
    B) I am not allowed to force others to pray the prayers of my faith publicly.

    5. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) Being a member of my faith means that I can be bullied without legal recourse.
    B) I am no longer allowed to use my faith to bully gay kids with impunity.

    6. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to purchase, read or possess religious books or material.
    B) Others are allowed to have access books, movies and websites that I do not like.

    7. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) My religious group is not allowed equal protection under the establishment clause.
    B) My religious group is not allowed to use public funds, buildings and resources as we would like, for whatever purposes we might like.

    8. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) Another religious group has been declared the official faith of my country.
    B) My own religious group is not given status as the official faith of my country.

    9. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) My religious community is not allowed to build a house of worship in my community.
    B) A religious community I do not like wants to build a house of worship in my community.

    10. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to teach my children the creation stories of our faith at home.
    B) Public school science classes are teaching science.

    Scoring key:

    If you answered "A" to any question, then perhaps your religious liberty is indeed at stake. You and your faith group have every right to now advocate for equal protection under the law. But just remember this one little, constitutional, concept: this means you can fight for your equality -- not your superiority.

    If you answered "B" to any question, then not only is your religious liberty not at stake, but there is a strong chance that you are oppressing the religious liberties of others. This is the point where I would invite you to refer back to the tenets of your faith, especially the ones about your neighbors.




    Written by The Rev. Emily C. Heath, a United Church of Christ (UCC) minister and the Senior Pastor of The Congregational Church in Exeter, New Hampshire. She is also a member of the national United Church of Christ Board, and a speaker and writer on Christian faith and social justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    "How to Determine if Your Religious Liberty Is Being Threatened in Just 10 Quick Questions."

    Just pick "A" or "B" for each question.


    1. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to go to a religious service of my own choosing.
    B) Others are allowed to go to religious services of their own choosing.

    2. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to marry the person I love legally, even though my religious community blesses my marriage.
    B) Some states refuse to enforce my own particular religious beliefs on marriage on those two guys in line down at the courthouse.

    3. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am being forced to use birth control.
    B) I am unable to force others to not use birth control.

    4. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to pray privately.
    B) I am not allowed to force others to pray the prayers of my faith publicly.

    5. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) Being a member of my faith means that I can be bullied without legal recourse.
    B) I am no longer allowed to use my faith to bully gay kids with impunity.

    6. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to purchase, read or possess religious books or material.
    B) Others are allowed to have access books, movies and websites that I do not like.

    7. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) My religious group is not allowed equal protection under the establishment clause.
    B) My religious group is not allowed to use public funds, buildings and resources as we would like, for whatever purposes we might like.

    8. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) Another religious group has been declared the official faith of my country.
    B) My own religious group is not given status as the official faith of my country.

    9. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) My religious community is not allowed to build a house of worship in my community.
    B) A religious community I do not like wants to build a house of worship in my community.

    10. My religious liberty is at risk because:

    A) I am not allowed to teach my children the creation stories of our faith at home.
    B) Public school science classes are teaching science.

    Scoring key:

    If you answered "A" to any question, then perhaps your religious liberty is indeed at stake. You and your faith group have every right to now advocate for equal protection under the law. But just remember this one little, constitutional, concept: this means you can fight for your equality -- not your superiority.

    If you answered "B" to any question, then not only is your religious liberty not at stake, but there is a strong chance that you are oppressing the religious liberties of others. This is the point where I would invite you to refer back to the tenets of your faith, especially the ones about your neighbors.




    Written by The Rev. Emily C. Heath, a United Church of Christ (UCC) minister and the Senior Pastor of The Congregational Church in Exeter, New Hampshire. She is also a member of the national United Church of Christ Board, and a speaker and writer on Christian faith and social justice.
    Not mine because I'm an atheist, but Barronelle Stutzman's has as she's been prosecuted for following the tenets of her faith. Pity.
    Last edited by Dutch; 3rd April 2015 at 11:45 PM.
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    Where do these tenants live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam Heat View Post
    Where do these tenants live?
    And he's a teacher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam Heat View Post
    Where do these tenants live?
    I fixed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    And he's a teacher?

    So I made an error. I can only hope you aren't a grammar nazi. You aren't, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Not mine because I'm an atheist, but Barronelle Stutzman's has as she's been prosecuted for following the tenets of her faith. Pity.
    Christianity requires unlawful discrimination? What about this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Titus 3:1
    Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good,
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    Barronelle Stutzman is the right's new Joe the plumber.

    Stuzman faces fines that could wreck her...yet Pizzeria crowdsoucing is at $800K.

    the right is sacrificing Stutzman in order to keep her a sympathetic martyr. Can't have a millionaire victim.

    Wash. floral artist’s home, savings still at risk after court judgment

    Ingersoll v. Arlene?s Flowers, State of Washington v. Arlene?s Flowers, and Arlene?s Flowers v. Ferguson - Alliance Defending Freedom


    http://www.indystar.com/story/news/p...cb03b75d%27%5D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Not mine because I'm an atheist, but Barronelle Stutzman's has as she's been prosecuted for following the tenets of her faith. Pity.
    Strange. I don't know any faith that says "though shalt not make cake for homos"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    Strange. I don't know any faith that says "though shalt not make cake for homos"
    Does she make cakes for the second marriages of divorced people?
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