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    Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violence

    Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violence | Public Radio International

    Anybody care to explain the rationale behind this? Or let me ask this another way: How much money has been poured into Congress by the NRA to put pressure on researchers not to research?

    “The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”

    Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.

    But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.

    “There is other research that goes on at the CDC that does have to do with guns,” says Zwillich. “There is a National Violent Death Reporting System, which does record the causes of all violent deaths, including in domestic abuse, youth violence, and child abuse. If a gun is the cause, that’s recorded — it’s not like they ignore it entirely. But gun deaths and gun injuries as a public health issue, as Rivara said, are still basically anathema to CDC researchers and anyone who gets CDC funding, which is potentially millions of dollars.”
    Interesting read (not in current events, as it was published in early July, 2015).

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    Well, the rationLe behind it is pretty obvious, no ?

    We can't allow research that shows a connection between gun ownership and dead people.

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    They don't want to do the research, because then they might actually have to do something about gun control. Or, in NRA mindset, devise a plan to take away ALL the guns from EVERYBODY so the EVIL government can somehow...do...something...evil, and...nefarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violence | Public Radio International

    Anybody care to explain the rationale behind this? Or let me ask this another way: How much money has been poured into Congress by the NRA to put pressure on researchers not to research?

    “The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”

    Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.

    But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.

    “There is other research that goes on at the CDC that does have to do with guns,” says Zwillich. “There is a National Violent Death Reporting System, which does record the causes of all violent deaths, including in domestic abuse, youth violence, and child abuse. If a gun is the cause, that’s recorded — it’s not like they ignore it entirely. But gun deaths and gun injuries as a public health issue, as Rivara said, are still basically anathema to CDC researchers and anyone who gets CDC funding, which is potentially millions of dollars.”
    Interesting read (not in current events, as it was published in early July, 2015).

    As you stated heavy pressure from the NRA, Boehner did it,


    Congressional ban on gun violence research renewed - Business Insider

    The rationale is this; and it's really weak,,, Guns aren't a disease, guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

    So it was trashed, in fact, the researchers are being "persuaded" not to continue their studies on this.

    This reminds me of those in the upper echelon of the Third Reich who questioned "eugenics" and were "persuaded" not to question.

    very similar, don't you think?

    So how's Boehner feeling this weekend, and how many bottles of Merlot did he pour in that bathtub he drowned himself in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    As you stated heavy pressure from the NRA, Boehner did it,


    Congressional ban on gun violence research renewed - Business Insider

    The rationale is this; and it's really weak,,, Guns aren't a disease, guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

    So it was trashed, in fact, the researchers are being "persuaded" not to continue their studies on this.

    This reminds me of those in the upper echelon of the Third Reich who questioned "eugenics" and were "persuaded" not to question.

    very similar, don't you think?

    So how's Boehner feeling this weekend, and how many bottles of Merlot did he pour in that bathtub he drowned himself in?

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    He's a brand spankin new grandpa, so I hope he's feeling fine!

    And yeah. I have no idea what it will take, - except for your comments about Germany. It's like they are my only hope for us.

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    Every social policy question has already been sufficiently researched, it's only a question of whether people are willing to accept the results.

    People could come up with whatever studies or arguments they want about gun control and violence but the data has been in, internationally, for several decades at least. And it hasn't changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    He's a brand spankin new grandpa, so I hope he's feeling fine!

    And yeah. I have no idea what it will take, - except for your comments about Germany. It's like they are my only hope for us.
    I hope he's thinking about his new grandchild and the kind of world he wants this child to grow up in.
    Thanks from BDBoop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax Templar View Post
    Every social policy question has already been sufficiently researched, it's only a question of whether people are willing to accept the results.

    People could come up with whatever studies or arguments they want about gun control and violence but the data has been in, internationally, for several decades at least. And it hasn't changed.
    Supply the data, I am an engineer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    I hope he's thinking about his new grandchild and the kind of world he wants this child to grow up in.


    I'm thinkin so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax Templar View Post
    Every social policy question has already been sufficiently researched, it's only a question of whether people are willing to accept the results.

    People could come up with whatever studies or arguments they want about gun control and violence but the data has been in, internationally, for several decades at least. And it hasn't changed.
    Did you read the article? Why was there retaliation (lost funding) against those who were doing the research?

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