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    Game over. Clinton won.

    as the hot air of our right wingers has had no effect upon the debates we have in this forum, I though it was time we had a real debate; before the election next year; a debate on why nothing has held Ms Clinton back.. a debate on what kind of president Ms Clinton is going to make ...


    Charles Krauthammer: Game over. Clinton won.
    By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

    I REPEAT: Unless she's indicted, Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic nomination. I wrote that six weeks ago, amid fevered dreams of a Clinton collapse and a Joe Biden rescue. That those were a mirage is all the more obvious after Tuesday's debate. The reason, then as now, is simple: Clinton has no competition.

    She's up against three ciphers and one endearing, gesticulating, slightly unmoored old man. If Joe Biden was ever thinking of getting into the race, he'd be crazy to do so now. It's over.

    Indeed, even before the debate, Clinton's numbers had stabilized. It began with Kevin McCarthy's gaffe of the decade. That gave her a perpetual get-out-of-jail-free card that she adroitly deploys whenever the email issue arises. Her technique is flawless: a few meaningless phrases about having made a mistake, taking responsibility and being transparent, blah blah, followed by (I paraphrase) “but look at the larger picture, even Kevin McCarthy admits it's a partisan witch hunt.” QED.

    At the debate, Bernie Sanders sealed the deal with a thunderous “the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails.” That rendered the issue officially off-limits to all Democrats. File closed. End of story. Of course, it will be featured in the general election, but we're talking here about her getting the nomination.

    In gratuitously granting her absolution, Sanders garnered points for high-mindedness. But he'd already cornered the high-mindedness market. Sanders was right to call this move dumb politics. His declaration simply and definitively conceded the race to Clinton. Leo Durocher said nice guys finish last. Sanders will finish second, which in this case is the same thing. -

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    This may have helped...best response ever...

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    Refusing to discuss it might work in the Democrat primary but polls suggest it won't work in a general election. I can only imagine how toxic someone would have to be in real life to get indignant with someone for raising that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax Templar View Post
    Refusing to discuss it might work in the Democrat primary but polls suggest it won't work in a general election. I can only imagine how toxic someone would have to be in real life to get indignant with someone for raising that issue.
    Show me the polls that substantiate your assertion.

    There are none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Show me the polls that substantiate your assertion.

    There are none.

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    Sure there aren't. I hope you don't act this way in real life when someone disagrees with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax Templar View Post
    Sure there aren't. I hope you don't act this way in real life when someone disagrees with you!
    Don't go off on a tangent, show me the polls
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    Clinton will likely win the Democratic Party's nomination but, other than Donald Trump, she'll lose to whomsoever is nominated by the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    Clinton will likely win the Democratic Party's nomination but, other than Donald Trump, she'll lose to whomsoever is nominated by the GOP.
    Actually, Trump is the one who can beat her. It's a mistake to think Trump can't win or that it's helpful to the Democrats if he wins the nomination. I always go back to the fact that Bush won a second term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax Templar View Post
    Refusing to discuss it might work in the Democrat primary but polls suggest it won't work in a general election. I can only imagine how toxic someone would have to be in real life to get indignant with someone for raising that issue.
    It's a legitimate issue. The reason they get so indignant is because she is a democrat and therefore can do wrong. You're an extreme right wing whacko if you dare criticize her.

    The only thing that is going to put this issue to bed is when the FBI concludes their investigation. It's not Bernie Sanders shouting about the damn emails at a debate. My fear is that President Obama attempts to politicize the FBI investigation and all hell breaks lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Actually, Trump is the one who can beat her. It's a mistake to think Trump can't win or that it's helpful to the Democrats if he wins the nomination. I always go back to the fact that Bush won a second term.
    He's been on his A game lately too. His interview with Wallace yesterday was masterful.

    If he can keep that up - and focus his rhetoric on the issues instead of getting side-tracked by the petty nonsense he will continue to do well and gain support.
    Last edited by Jeremy; 19th October 2015 at 03:16 AM.

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