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    KOCH Bros. investigated and 'shopped' LIES to outlets to SMEAR NY Times reporter

    Kill the messenger. This woman is pretty damn low key, does her job, does it well, takes no laps around the ring and has been churning out stuff for YEARS for the NY Times. She wrote about 'dark political money' (how dare she) and the KOCH BROS. hired private investigations to try and smear her. Her reputation must have been pretty stellar, even the DAILY CALLER wouldn't touch it! I'll be looking for release of her book!

    What Happened to Jane Mayer When She Wrote About the Koch Brothers

    By JIM DWYER JAN. 26, 2016

    Out of the blue in the fall of 2010, a blogger asked Jane Mayer, a writer with The New Yorker, how she felt about the private investigator who was digging into her background. Ms. Mayer thought the idea was a joke, she said this week. At a Christmas party a few months later, she ran into a former reporter who had been asked about helping with an investigation into another reporter on behalf of two conservative billionaires.

    “The reporter had written a story they disliked,” Ms. Mayer recounts in “Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right,” out this month from Doubleday. Her acquaintance told her, “‘It occurred to me afterward that the reporter they wanted to investigate might be you.’”

    As it happened, Ms. Mayer had published a major story in the magazine that August about the brothers David and Charles Koch, and their role in cultivating the power of the Tea Party movement in 2010. Using a network of nonprofits and other donors, they had provided essential financial support for the political voices that have held sway in Republican politics since 2011. “Dark Money” chronicles the vast sums of money from the Koch brothers and other wealthy conservatives that have helped shape public dialogue in opposition to Democratic positions on climate change, the Affordable Care Act and tax policy.

    Ms. Mayer began to take the rumored investigation seriously when she heard from her New Yorker editor that she was going to be accused — falsely — of plagiarism, stealing the work of other writers. A dossier of her supposed plagiarism had been provided to reporters at The New York Post and The Daily Caller, but the smears collapsed when the writers who were the purported victims made statements saying that it was nonsense, and that there had been no plagiarism whatsoever. Indeed, as one noted, Ms. Mayer had plainly credited his writing — though this was not mentioned in the bill of particulars that was passed around.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/ny...=top-news&_r=0

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    And the RWNJ's worship these fuckers. They are the ultimate in Trust Bunny Drones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    And the RWNJ's worship these fuckers. They are the ultimate in Trust Bunny Drones.
    I don't know anyone who worships them.....or even keeps up with them, for that matter.

    However, I know of a bunch of left wing nut bags who are scared shitless at the sound of their name.
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    Jane Mayer is a hack. She tried the old smear of trying to claim that Fred Koch was some sort of Nazi sympathizer because he did business in Germany years before they invaded Poland and somehow that reflects on the Koch Brothers.
    Two can play at that game. It turns out that Mayer's great great grandfather, Emanuel Lehman of Lehman Brothers did some business with the Nazis too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Jane Mayer is a hack. She tried the old smear of trying to claim that Fred Koch was some sort of Nazi sympathizer because he did business in Germany years before they invaded Poland and somehow that reflects on the Koch Brothers.

    Two can play at that game. It turns out that Mayer's great great grandfather, Emanuel Lehman of Lehman Brothers did some business with the Nazis too.
    I love the way RIGHT on this board claim LEFTIES leave out whole chunks of 'pertinent' info when we dare to make a point. What do you call it when the RIGHT does it? THE KOCH BROTHERS DAD DID DO BUSINESS WITH THE NAZIS. Their father built a major oil refinery, so big it amped up the manufacturing of NAZI war planes that bombed Europe and then later Americans. That deal was orchestrated by another AMERICAN businessman who happened to be a NAZI sympathizer. I would have to assume the US military thought it important enough target as we ended up bombing the shit out of it and destroyed it!

    On top of that, the KOCHS' daddy was a primary funding agent for the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY. The John Birchers were rabid anti-Communists, rabid CIVIL RIGHTS opponents, limited government, anti-union, and anti-wealth distribution in any form. They are still around and now considered a ultraconservative 'patriot' group. I think it is safe to say these 2 acorns didn't fall far from the KOCH tree. Remember both 'boys' were alive and of an age to understand what their dad was doing during in WWII and were adult by the time he helped found the Birchers. (The part where MR. KOCH loved German discipline so much he brought back a German nanny for his 2 boys is priceless).

    (You may blow smoke up your own A but don't try it on us. We are smarter than you think, we can look shit up even if Jane Meyer s a hack).


    ...The founder of the company that would later become Koch Industries, also the father of politically-involved tycoons Charles and David Koch, once helped to build an oil refinery for the Third Reich, according to a new book.

    In her soon-to-be released “Dark Money,” New Yorker writer Jane Mayer says that Fred Koch was hired by an American Nazi sympathizer, William Rhodes Davis, to help with building one of the biggest oil refineries in pre-World War Two Germany. In 1934, Koch’s company drew up engineering plans for the plant near Hamburg, and oversaw the launch of its construction.

    The Washington Post reveals just how much Koch was enamored with the Nazis, in another tidbit from Mayer’s book: “[I]Mayer writes that the family patriarch, Fred Koch, admired German discipline so much in the 1930s that he hired a fervent Nazi as a governess for his eldest boys. ‘Dark Money’ suggests that the experience of being toilet trained by a Nazi may have contributed to Charles Koch’s antipathy toward government today.”

    The New York Times, which first reported the book’s findings, calls the refinery, which supplied fuel to Nazi war planes, “a critical industrial cog in Hitler’s war machine.” It was personally approved by Hitler, according to Mayer, and eventually destroyed by the US in 1944.[/I]

    http://qz.com/592247/the-father-of-t...for-the-nazis/

    And this simple Wikipedia search...
    ...According to his son, David, his father "was a very conservative Republican and was not a fan of big government,"[11] and was paranoid about communism.[22] David told author Brian Doherty his father "was constantly speaking to us children about what was wrong with government and government policy. It's something I grew up with - a fundamental point of view that big government was bad, and impositions of government controls on our lives and economic fortunes was not good."[29]:407

    In 1958, Koch became a founding member of the John Birch Society, an American political advocacy group that opposes communist infiltration and supports limited government.[13][22][30] Koch held John Birch Society chapter meetings in the basement of his family's home in Wichita, Kansas...


    As for Mayer's GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER?? Your citation is wrong or your MATH is wrong. There would have been NO Nazis when the 62 year old MAYER's great or great great grandfather was around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    I love the way RIGHT WINGERS on this board claim LEFTIES leave out whole chunks of 'pertinent' info when we dare to make a point. What do you call it when the RIGHT does it? THE KOCH BROTHERS DAD DID DO BUSINESS with the Nazis. Their father built a major oil refinery, so big it amped up the manufacturing of NAZI war planes that bombed Europe and then the bombed American soldiers. That deal was orchestrated by another AMERICAN businessman who happened to be a NAZI sympathizer. I would have to assume the US military thought it important enough target as we ended up bombing the shit out and destroyed it.

    On top of that, the KOCHS' daddy was a primary funding agent for the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY. (The John Birchers were rabid anti-Communists, rabid CIVIL RIGHTS opponents, limited government, anti-union, and anti-wealth distribution in any form. They are still around and now considered a ultraconservative 'patriot' group).

    You may blow smoke up your own A but don't try it on us. We are smarter than you think and we can look shit up even if Jane Meyer is a hack.


    The founder of the company that would later become Koch Industries, also the father of politically-involved tycoons Charles and David Koch, once helped to build an oil refinery for the Third Reich, according to a new book. I think it is safe to say these 2 acorns didn't fall far from the KOCH tree.

    In her soon-to-be released “Dark Money,” New Yorker writer Jane Mayer says that Fred Koch was hired by an American Nazi sympathizer, William Rhodes Davis, to help with building one of the biggest oil refineries in pre-World War Two Germany. In 1934, Koch’s company drew up engineering plans for the plant near Hamburg, and oversaw the launch of its construction.

    The Washington Post reveals just how much Koch was enamored with the Nazis, in another tidbit from Mayer’s book: “Mayer writes that the family patriarch, Fred Koch, admired German discipline so much in the 1930s that he hired a fervent Nazi as a governess for his eldest boys. ‘Dark Money’ suggests that the experience of being toilet trained by a Nazi may have contributed to Charles Koch’s antipathy toward government today.”
    The New York Times, which first reported the book’s findings, calls the refinery, which supplied fuel to Nazi war planes, “a critical industrial cog in Hitler’s war machine.” It was personally approved by Hitler, according to Mayer, and eventually destroyed by the US in 1944.
    Did I mention that the Lehman Brothers who Jane Mayer is related to started out as cotton traders in the 1850's? I wonder what unsavory business that would put them in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    I love the way RIGHT on this board claim LEFTIES leave out whole chunks of 'pertinent' info when we dare to make a point. What do you call it when the RIGHT does it? THE KOCH BROTHERS DAD DID DO BUSINESS WITH THE NAZIS. Their father built a major oil refinery, so big it amped up the manufacturing of NAZI war planes that bombed Europe and then later Americans. That deal was orchestrated by another AMERICAN businessman who happened to be a NAZI sympathizer. I would have to assume the US military thought it important enough target as we ended up bombing the shit out of it and destroyed it.

    On top of that, the KOCHS' daddy was a primary funding agent for the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY. (The John Birchers were rabid anti-Communists, rabid CIVIL RIGHTS opponents, limited government, anti-union, and anti-wealth distribution in any form. They are still around and now considered a ultraconservative 'patriot' group). I think it is safe to say these 2 acorns didn't fall far from the KOCH tree.

    (You may blow smoke up your own A but don't try it on us. We are smarter than you and by good, we can look shit up even if Jane Meyer is a hack).


    ...The founder of the company that would later become Koch Industries, also the father of politically-involved tycoons Charles and David Koch, once helped to build an oil refinery for the Third Reich, according to a new book.

    In her soon-to-be released “Dark Money,” New Yorker writer Jane Mayer says that Fred Koch was hired by an American Nazi sympathizer, William Rhodes Davis, to help with building one of the biggest oil refineries in pre-World War Two Germany. In 1934, Koch’s company drew up engineering plans for the plant near Hamburg, and oversaw the launch of its construction.

    The Washington Post reveals just how much Koch was enamored with the Nazis, in another tidbit from Mayer’s book: “[I]Mayer writes that the family patriarch, Fred Koch, admired German discipline so much in the 1930s that he hired a fervent Nazi as a governess for his eldest boys. ‘Dark Money’ suggests that the experience of being toilet trained by a Nazi may have contributed to Charles Koch’s antipathy toward government today.”

    The New York Times, which first reported the book’s findings, calls the refinery, which supplied fuel to Nazi war planes, “a critical industrial cog in Hitler’s war machine.” It was personally approved by Hitler, according to Mayer, and eventually destroyed by the US in 1944.[/I]

    The father of the Koch brothers reportedly helped build an oil refinery for the Nazis - Quartz

    And this simple Wikipedia search...
    ...According to his son, David, his father "was a very conservative Republican and was not a fan of big government,"[11] and was paranoid about communism.[22] David told author Brian Doherty his father "was constantly speaking to us children about what was wrong with government and government policy. It's something I grew up with - a fundamental point of view that big government was bad, and impositions of government controls on our lives and economic fortunes was not good."[29]:407

    In 1958, Koch became a founding member of the John Birch Society, an American political advocacy group that opposes communist infiltration and supports limited government.[13][22][30] Koch held John Birch Society chapter meetings in the basement of his family's home in Wichita, Kansas...

    As for Mayer's GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER?? Your citation is wrong or your MATH is wrong. There would have been NO Nazis when the 62 year old MAYER's great or great grandfather was around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Kill the messenger. This woman is pretty damn low key, does her job, does it well, takes no laps around the ring and has been churning out stuff for YEARS for the NY Times. She wrote about 'dark political money' (how dare she) and the KOCH BROS. hired private investigations to try and smear her. Her reputation must have been pretty stellar, even the DAILY CALLER wouldn't touch it! I'll be looking for release of her book!

    What Happened to Jane Mayer When She Wrote About the Koch Brothers

    By JIM DWYER JAN. 26, 2016

    Out of the blue in the fall of 2010, a blogger asked Jane Mayer, a writer with The New Yorker, how she felt about the private investigator who was digging into her background. Ms. Mayer thought the idea was a joke, she said this week. At a Christmas party a few months later, she ran into a former reporter who had been asked about helping with an investigation into another reporter on behalf of two conservative billionaires.

    “The reporter had written a story they disliked,” Ms. Mayer recounts in “Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right,” out this month from Doubleday. Her acquaintance told her, “‘It occurred to me afterward that the reporter they wanted to investigate might be you.’”

    As it happened, Ms. Mayer had published a major story in the magazine that August about the brothers David and Charles Koch, and their role in cultivating the power of the Tea Party movement in 2010. Using a network of nonprofits and other donors, they had provided essential financial support for the political voices that have held sway in Republican politics since 2011. “Dark Money” chronicles the vast sums of money from the Koch brothers and other wealthy conservatives that have helped shape public dialogue in opposition to Democratic positions on climate change, the Affordable Care Act and tax policy.

    Ms. Mayer began to take the rumored investigation seriously when she heard from her New Yorker editor that she was going to be accused — falsely — of plagiarism, stealing the work of other writers. A dossier of her supposed plagiarism had been provided to reporters at The New York Post and The Daily Caller, but the smears collapsed when the writers who were the purported victims made statements saying that it was nonsense, and that there had been no plagiarism whatsoever. Indeed, as one noted, Ms. Mayer had plainly credited his writing — though this was not mentioned in the bill of particulars that was passed around.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/ny...=top-news&_r=0


    this is a popular tactic started by R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr...
    Among the Hillary Haters - The Atlantic

    In what they call Opposition Research, they find a way to smear people they will go through that
    persons life with a FINE TOOTH Comb..
    It is fucking repugnant. These vile scum need to be wiped OUT in the USA... they have INFECTED politics
    with the fucking bullshit of High School Gossip.. These people in my opinion are the REASON
    the USA is so fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    I don't know anyone who worships them.....or even keeps up with them, for that matter.

    However, I know of a bunch of left wing nut bags who are scared shitless at the sound of their name.
    $899,000,000 dedicated to just the 2016 election cycle sure seems like someone should be paying attention to the KOCH BROTHERS. Maybe 2 private business brothers in the 'oil biz' who dedicate just under a billion dollars doesn't hit the threshold to be paid attention to. Silly me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Did I mention that the Lehman Brothers who Jane Mayer is related to started out as cotton traders in the 1850's? I wonder what unsavory business that would put them in?
    It puts you in the business of minimizing the Koch bros.
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