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    we’ll miss Obama

    will Trump make you miss Obama, or will America continue to carry along the last 8 years of hatred towards Obama...


    Trump’s domination of the US election is teaching us one thing: we’ll miss Obama

    Jonathan Freedland
    Friday 1 April 2016


    This campaign is bizarre and unpredictable. Which only makes the president’s strengths clearer every day

    Where a proposed ban on all Muslims entering the US, a call for 11 million migrants to be deported and an alpha-male brag about the size of his penis all failed, a demand that women face “some sort of punishment” for having an abortion might just succeed.

    It’s as if Donald Trump has been playing an extended game of chicken these last few months, piling insult upon offence upon sheer grossness, daring the Republican electorate to repudiate him. So far those Americans have refused to blink, repeatedly favouring the real estate mogul with their votes, no matter what garbage comes out of his mouth. But his suggestion this week that women be sent to the ducking stool or be stoned in the public square – he was hazy on the details – might finally prove too much.

    We’ll know soon enough, as the carnival-cum-horror-show that is the 2016 primary season enters its decisive stretch. Meanwhile, somewhere offstage, cloistered in the relative obscurity of the White House, is the man who is president of the United States. So intense has been the global gaze on Trump and his rivals, Barack Obama has been all but forgotten.

    Yet, quietly, the process of assessing his record and divining the meaning of the Obama presidency has begun. The April edition of the Atlantic magazine carries a 20,000-word essay on The Obama Doctrine, based on a series of in-depth, unashamedly philosophical conversations between the outgoing president and journalist Jeffrey Goldberg. And on Tuesday BBC2 will broadcast the final part of Inside Obama’s White House, a riveting series made by the acclaimed filmmaker Norma Percy and anchored in interviews with every key player of the last eight years, from Obama downwards.

    But a curious dynamic is at work, one that is accelerating the usual legacy-shaping process. Every presidency is always judged, in part, by what follows it: nothing burnished Bill Clinton’s historical standing more effectively than the comparison with his successor, George W Bush. But in 2016, that process is happening a stage early, pre-emptively even. Anyone looking back at Obama can’t help but look forward to an imagined – and mercifully unlikely – Trump presidency and draw the obvious contrast.

    so much more to read: Trump?s domination of the US election is teaching us one thing: we?ll miss Obama | Jonathan Freedland | Opinion | The Guardian
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    Yet, quietly, the process of assessing his record and divining the meaning of the Obama presidency has begun. The April edition of the Atlantic magazine carries a 20,000-word essay on The Obama Doctrine, based on a series of in-depth, unashamedly philosophical conversations between the outgoing president and journalist Jeffrey Goldberg. And on Tuesday BBC2 will broadcast the final part of Inside Obama’s White House, a riveting series made by the acclaimed filmmaker Norma Percy and anchored in interviews with every key player of the last eight years, from Obama downwards.
    Most divisive, racially motivated president on domestic issues in history.

    Most incompetent leader on economic issues in decades.

    Most incompetent foreign policy in History.


    If foreign governments just Luuuuuuv the president - he's working for the wrong people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snikitz View Post
    Most divisive, racially motivated president on domestic issues in history.

    Most incompetent leader on economic issues in decades.

    Most incompetent foreign policy in History.


    If foreign governments just Luuuuuuv the president - he's working for the wrong people.
    Boooooosssch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snikitz View Post
    Most divisive, racially motivated president on domestic issues in history.

    Most incompetent leader on economic issues in decades.

    Most incompetent foreign policy in History.

    If foreign governments just Luuuuuuv the president - he's working for the wrong people.
    meh.. no matter how much the bitter whiners whine about Obama, this BHO administration will never reach the 19% approval rating of the GWB administration towards the end of Bush's term.

    Facts: under the GWB administration's watch the USA suffered the worst ever terrorist attack in US history with nearly 3000 killed, the longest wars in US history with over 20,000 American casualties at the cost of untold trillions of dollars, the second worst economic meltdown in US history, Russia invaded Georgia with no response from the USA. Oh and the GWB admin failed to kill UBL.
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    Boooooosssch!


    A Reminder to Republicans of Just How Bad Things Were Under George W. Bush
    August 4, 2014 By Allen Clifton
    The human mind fascinates me with the way it recalls past events in our lives. Especially when it comes to politics. People who complain now about how “terrible” President Obama has been, or that he’s the “worst president in history,” clearly have a distorted memory of the Bush presidency. Has Obama been perfect? Not at all. Part of that is his fault, part of that is the unrealistic expectations many of us had for him when he was elected in 2008. But most of it is the fact that upon his election in 2008, the GOP essentially crafted their strategy of opposing anything he supports. A plan that was solidified when liberals allowed conservative voters to give Republicans control over the House of Representatives in 2010. That was precisely the weapon they needed to block anything and practically everything. But while conservatives often like to claim that President Obama is the “worst president in history,” I thought I’d remind them, and everyone else, of just how bad things were under George W. Bush. Was his election not a foreshadowing of how terrible things would be in the next 4 years? For the first time since 1888 we “elected” a president who lost the popular vote. Could you imagine the conservative outrage if President Obama was elected president, yet lost the popular vote? That might have been the catalyst that finally triggered a second Civil War. Then just a few months later we saw the worst terrorist attack in United States history. We can’t forget about the Iraq War and all of the weapons of mass destruction that we didn’t find. It’s okay though, right? Only 4,487 Americans died fighting a war that was based on lies. The most since the Vietnam War. There’s always Afghanistan. You know, the war we started to get Osama bin Ladin – only Bush never got him. President Obama did though. Then don’t forget about the scandals like Abu Ghraib, Hurricane Katrina, the outing of a CIA official, veterans neglected at the Walter Reed hospital, Medicare Part D and a host of other scandals that plagued the Bush administration’s eight years. But I wanted to get up to 2008, just as Bush was leaving office. That summer, just before the entire economy officially collapsed, oil had hit its all-time high of $147 per barrel (right now it fluctuates between $95-105 on average throughout the year). While gas prices aren’t cheap now, our country had never seen prices well over $4 per gallon like most of the country experienced that summer. Then came September when the bottom officially started falling out. But it wasn’t just that month. We lost jobs every single month in 2008 (2.6 million in total). The worst annual loss of jobs since 1945. In his last three months in office, we lost a combined 1.7 million jobs. In January 2009, his last month in office, we lost 598k jobs. And let’s not forget he had just bailed out Wall Street, the American auto industry was on the verge of collapse, our deficits were out of control, our national debt was almost double what it was when he took office, the stock market was plummeting, millions of Americans were losing their homes and unemployment was skyrocketing out of control. Then let’s also not forget that we were still engulfed in two wars. Bush’s final approval rating was 22 percent. That’s the world in which we lived when George W. Bush left office in January 2009. Where are we at today? Well: Unemployment is down to 6.2%. We’ve seen the best year of job gains since 1999. Stocks have hit record highs. 53 straight months of private sector job growth. We’ve created 9.9 million jobs during that span. We haven’t started any wars. The rate of uninsured Americans fell to its lowest level since Gallup starting tracking the number in 2008. Down almost 5 percent in just the last year alone. Deficits have been cut in half. Among many other things. So, when conservatives say that we’re much worse off now than when President Obama took office, they’re either blatantly altering history to suit their talking points – or they have absolutely no damn idea what it is that they’re talking about.

    Read more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/r...george-w-bush/

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    See my new sig? Hopefully, we'll never find out what happens when people who are actually as bad as you believe Obama to be, land in the White House.
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    And why on earth is his approval rating so high? If he sucked as bad as y'all erroneously believe, he'd have Bush-level ratings.
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    Bush's Final Approval Rating: 22 Percent - CBS News

    President Bush will leave office as one of the most unpopular departing presidents in history, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll showing Mr. Bush's final approval rating at 22 percent.

    Seventy-three percent say they disapprove of the way Mr. Bush has handled his job as president over the last eight years.

    Mr. Bush's final approval rating is the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago.

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